Outside of two Israeli sources I wasn’t able to find anything on this. Not saying that he didn’t say it, but still.
The text under the headline doesn’t necessarily support the title, even without looking further into it. Depends whether it’s been accurately or poorly translated. ‘[W]eren’t specifically targeted’ could be a translation of a few things, among them the idea that others were also targeted. ‘Specifically’ is a word like ‘literally’, which doesn’t always mean ‘literally’ anymore. He’s wrong if he does mean something like Jews weren’t targeted for being Jewish, of course, and I don’t defend that. I’m only highlighting that it wouldn’t be the first time that ‘loose’ translations have made some enemies of the west look bad (Lukaschenko gets this a lot, I believe).
tag an Arabic speaker
How old are these Israeli articles that you found?
I looked for the same and they’re all from this week.
🏢🎙📹🇸🇾 Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has said there is no evidence that six million Jews were killed during the Holocaust and accused the United States of financing the German Nazi Party.
“There is no evidence that six million Jews were killed [during the Holocaust]. There may have been a Holocaust, no one denies that… Yes, there were concentration camps, but this is a politicized issue, not a humanitarian or real one. Why are we talking about these six million [Jews] and not about the 26 million Soviet people who were killed in this [World War II]? Is that six million more expensive? There were the same actions, there was no method of torture or murder specific to Jews. The Nazis used the same method everywhere. However, this issue was politicized in order to falsify the truth, and then to prepare for the resettlement of Jews from Europe to other regions or to Palestine,” Bashar al—Assad said during a meeting of Baath members on Monday.
I mean yes the genocide of millions of jews is highlighted the most of all the WW2 deaths but to say there is no evidence of it is just weird.
This is a lot more reasonable than the article made it sound
It’s not reasonable to deny 6 million jews died in Holocaust. There were systematic killings and torture to wipe out European jewry out of existence along with poles but jews were considered as the lowest grade of people. The concentration camps, the death marches and systematic ethnic cleansing carried out by Nazis was recorded by soviet Union. The problem is solely Jewish state based on Palestine is an artificial problem. Why these arabic governments don’t try to address the apartheid in that regard?
No it’s not. He’s willfully ignoring the mountains of evidence that the Nazis did indeed deliberately target European Jewish people and almost wiped their population out. They targeted other groups, sure. But antisemitic conspiracies were an explicit part of their entire ideology. Yeah, the legacy of the Holocaust is distorted and weaponized by the West, but his statement is one of Holocaust denial.
This is an L. And his take doesn’t help the struggle against Israel or the global reputation of Arabs.
That’s I am talking about. Weird any commie would support this statement even.
Who elected Assad to be the global representative of Arabs?
I never said he is?
But we gotta acknowledge that Holocaust denial coming from an Arab leader – one that Marxists generally support – doesn’t exactly help in a time while activists and Arabs are being censored en masse for “antisemitism”
aside from the first sentence; there’s plenty of evidenceehhhhh reading it again, his only good point is that many people [in the West] ignore or trivialize Soviet casualties
considering it’s Memri TV, can anyone confirm that the subtitles in the video are accurate?
Unfortunately they are. I checked each bit and there’s nothing wrong with the subs. I’ll find the full video to see the context of this, but it’s looking real bad for him.
the full memri video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlzpnP1221Y
the original video it was taken from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZaQzBcjOgM
i’ll check if there was any convenient cutting of words from the original clip.
4:40 is the part
Oof…rare super L from Assad 😩
I honestly dont trust it. All from 2 israeli sources and not even like 1-2 years ago Assad was talking about how horrible nazis were and how NATO incorporated them into their network in europe with operation gladio after pretending to be against fascism. I expect this is just another hit job trying to paint anti Zionists as holocaust deniers and nazis. The Israeli media and govt has shown how quick they are to lie about even the most obvious shit, saying things like calendars with days of the week are lists of hamas members and that palestinian school books are in English with dedication pages to terrorists.
Yeah I find this hard to believe cause I just read a post about him explaining exactly that…like ain’t no way man…
Anyone have a full transcript of this speech? Even in Arabic? Some have alleged deliberate mistranslation.
Come here and translate this shit, here are 2 articles
You can archive them
The translation is correct
Naooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
On the other hand, there’s no manipulation of words by Memri itself?
Syria criminalizes same sex relations, It’s just a part of the global south being a bit underdeveloped the “western measures of progression™” due to colonialism and underdeveloped economies.
I don’t mean that, I’m talking about Bashar possibly denying the scale of the holocaust on this post…
The video cuts into him talking mid sentence. In the Arab World the Holocaust is seen as a tragic event that happened to many people but politicized by Zionists to justify their colonialization of Palestine, Golda Meir once said that after the Holocaust Jews are free to do whatever they want. Bashar questions the accuracy of the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust.
I’m curious about one line in particular, where he says “there’s no evidence six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.” Does the word “Jews” actually appear here? I’m wondering if Bashar is merely saying that six million is an underestimation of the total death toll of the Holocaust, or if he straight up thinks no Jews died in the Shoah. Thanks in advance.
He’s talking about the number
I will do so later if I don’t forget. Is there a remind me bot here?
The video is cut right before he questions the Holocaust’s Jewish death toll figures, but he doesn’t deny the Holocaust happened. He just says it has been politicized and he gives evidence to the fact that the Soviet death toll is ignored.
It’s a popular trope among certain islamic intellectuals to deny the Holocaust and also to tow the judo-bolshevik conspiracy theory. Assad just made a left wing version of that trope. If you can’t deny the Holocaust then it means you shouldn’t deny a great amount of atrocity had been committed to the European jewry by Nazis. 6 million jews were systematically killed by gas chambers and death marches and shooting. It was also USSR who addressed the mass atrocities when they supported the 2 state solution.
Haha, the karma that Zionists have been expecting.
Not an Arabic speaker, just posting relevant sources for people to verify.
SANA’s 40-min video posted on 2023-12-18 titled “حديث الرئيس الأسد في الشأن السياسي خلال اجتماع اللجنة المركزية لحزب البعث العربي الاشتراكي”, also posted on their website (https://sana.sy/?p=2018974): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZaQzBcjOgM
SANA’s English news article titled “President al-Assad to al-Baath Party’s Central Committee meeting: Commitment to issues protects nations and homelands”, summarizing the main points of his speech, but doesn’t mention this particular topic posted by MEMRI TV: https://sana.sy/en/?p=322180
It is in the Arab perception of the Holocaust that Achcar’s book is at its strongest. Whereas Europeans see the Holocaust from the viewpoint of the perpetrators, Arabs see it as victims. This explains the role that Holocaust denial plays amongst Arabs. When Ahmedinajad hosted a Holocaust conference in December 2006 in Tehran, he was greeted with headlines such as ‘Enough stupidity’ in left‐wing Beirut daily Al‐Ahkbar.
Dr Azmi Bishara, an Arab member of the […] Knesset, who was driven out of [the neocolony] by Shin Bet (‘General Security Service’) wrote in Al‐Ahram that ‘Holocaust Denial does not undermine the moral justifications for the existence of the [neocolony] as some imagine. What it does, however, is hand the European right and [its neocolony] a convenient enemy upon which to unload their problems’ (p. 254).
Achcar asks the most pertinent question of all, namely whether all forms of Holocaust Denial are the same (p. 261). Many Arabs reacted to Zionism’s propagandistic use of the Holocaust by denial. This is entirely different from European neo[fascists], who hope for a repetition of the Holocaust [that] they deny.
(Emphasis added. Source.)
I might piss a lot of people off by saying this, but I honestly don’t believe that all Arabs who deny the Shoah should be treated like neofascists. Yes, what they say is terrible, but they aren’t hopeless. If they had conversations with anti‐Zionists who accept the Shoah as factual (e.g. Neturei Karta), then I believe that they could be persuaded to reconsider their doubt. They can explain to them that accepting the Shoah as factual does not mean justifying Zionism, and that Shoah education has the potential to help anti‐Zionism.
I cannot blame anybody for being upset by this news, but the Zionist ruling class deserves most of blame for people overreacting to its abuse of the Shoah.
I think he’s just saying there’s no evidence that Jews were killed and other concentration camp victims were spared. I don’t know if this is historically accurate. But he does say that 6 million Jews were tortured to death like 1 second later.
I think he doesn’t… He like Iranians have trivialized the Holocaust as sort of military pogroms.
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