Donald Trump faces four indictments, 91 criminal charges and hundreds of years of maximum prison time combined.
This is a former president who — according to the latest grand jury indictment in Fulton County, Georgia — participated in a “criminal enterprise.” Trump and 18 co-defendants are accused of trying “to unlawfully change the outcome of the election” in 2020. Among the 13 felony charges he faces is one count of violating the Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act and two counts of conspiracy to commit forgery.
Most of those charges are related to a fake elector scheme by the Trump campaign in which a slate of “alternate” electors in Georgia would cast electoral votes for Trump instead of Joe Biden. The president of the most powerful democracy in the world allegedly tried to steal an election.
We can’t say it often enough: This is serious. Americans cannot shrug this off or normalize it, no matter how many times Trump gets indicted. Yet it feels like business as usual. Not only is Trump favored to win the GOP presidential nomination, he’s also neck and neck with President Biden in the 2024 general election, according to a July poll by the New York Times/Siena Poll.
MORE THAN A CULT
Trump’s support cannot only be explained as the product of the cult-like power he has over his MAGA base, which accounts for roughly 40% of Republican voters who believe those indictments are nothing but a conspiracy against him.
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Nobody is shrugging this off. Those left of center are freaking out while the Nazis on the right are cheering him on.
Nobody is shrugging this off
except the millions upon millions of people who can’t even be bothered to vote. I know the systemic vote suppression probably counts for a significant part of it, but honestly most of the rest are skirting their civic duty
What will you vote for? There is not alternative that is any better than Trump
How about a pile of dog shit? If Trump had literally just let the medical experts speak instead of constantly downplaying COVID 19, thousands of people wouldn’t be dead now. A pile of dog shit would’ve at least had the courtesy of shutting the fuck up.
The medical experts downplayed it as well though unfortunately. Fauci acted like it wasn’t a big deal when it was. He lied about masks and claimed they weren’t needed. (Glad I had them anyway and ignore him early on, but still).
Yeah I’ve heard this all before. Since I was conscious and reading the news daily, these distortions aren’t important to me and I refuse to argue about them anymore. Just know that a lot of people disagree with this ludicrous spin on reality
I just sleep at night knowing I didn’t kill thousands by pretending Covid was just a flu like Fauci and the CDC did. Covid was far far worse than a Flu is
Disagree with Fauci’s spin on reality where he downplayed Covid? Yeah, most people do
Yes the 4 day span he was trying to calm down 350 million people means science is invalid
Where did I mention the science? You are a fucking liar who didn’t read my comment. The science was valid but he misrepresented the science and lied about what the scientific evidence was and pretended Covid wasn’t a threat. Go back to your Fox News where you can pretend “it was just a flu”
Yeah and that was a fucking stupid thing to say. I still don’t know why they thought that was a good idea. The rest was on target though.
Literally every alternative is better.
Even corporate bootlicker sleepy joe is making heaps of improvements in the US compared to Trump.
Ehhhhh, not really. Biden increased funding to the police, remilitarized Somalia and hadent ended concentration camps for migrants. Biden’s one good thing was pulling out of Afganistan
Biden also allowed Covid to run wild and ended the state of emergency
Ah, the “neither side is the ideal option so just vote for Trump” angle. Not sure what your point is unless you’re pro-Trump. Is Biden the ideal candidate? No, but here in reality where the options are Trump or Biden, there really isn’t a valid argument where anyone left of alt-right wouldn’t vote for Biden.
I didn’t say vote for Trump. I said dont vote. I’ve seen no evidence that Biden was any different than Trump so far. They both have been awful
Abstaining from voting is basically giving Trump the win, ergo it is a vote for Trump. Again, either these are ignorant comments or you’re just a troll.
Tell people’s conservative parents everywhere that. I know for sure mine are shruggers. At this point anything short of “damn it looks like you kids were right, I’m voting Democrat if I have to” is a shrug.
Context matters. When they’re in a conversation with another person that they care for and are face-to-face, who is talking about a contrary point of view, logic and thinking is present in some small amount in their brain. They’ll actually think about the other person’s point, and then make the mental shrug about Trump and his crimes and their effect on his viability/reasonableness as a candidate.
If they’re in a group of other supporters, or on the internet, they very quickly do the republican/conservative thing of ‘falling in line’ and will try to publicly demonstrate (virtue signaling, aye?) how much they are part of the group and follow its standards.
I’ve had several conversations with my parents. When it is just me and one of them, I get a semi-reasonable conversation, but if another person is present, suddenly it’s like having a conversation with a fox news talking-head.
You are lucky honestly. I think my parents double down because it’s me talking :/
And I’m definitely more disappointed and upset because it’s them, the people who supposedly raised me to be good.