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    Same talking point ugh, but do listen to this, the Russian plainly and explicitly state they do not wish to occupy Ukraine. It’s a complete myth peddled by the MSM as they hoped the Russians would fight an occupation war, even back in march the Russian government gave a peace deal to the Ukrainians, that they would hand over they’re currently occupied land (except Crimea since it voted to be a part of Russia). Does that sound like what a genocidal regime would do?

    But Ukraine rejected, spouting the idea to regime change Russia, to take back Crimea, and to punish and humiliate the Russians. How on earth do you expect the Russians to even remotely except this? especially when the Ukrainians completely lack the means to even fight Russia in their supposed land?

    This war wouldn’t even happen if the Americans never pushed Ukraine into hostilities with the Russians, and before you say the Ukrainians have the right to join NATO and the west, the Americans sanction and aim to destroy nations like Syria, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Iran, north Korea because of ‘human rights abuses’ who comes up with these, and don’t these nations have to the right to choose who they are and what they do? America has the biggest prison population, slave labour, and interment camps for migrants. Are these not human rights abuses? so why does America have the right to occupy, invade, and tell others what to do if they commit the same atrocities?

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      Same talking point ugh, but do listen to this, the Russian plainly and explicitly state they do not wish to occupy Ukraine

      I mean, that’s… not proof of anything, given that governments can, will, and 100% of the time do lie if it’s at all to their advantage.

      Does that sound like what a genocidal regime would do?

      Are you really this gullible just to be contrarian?

      So you don’t answer anything I actually asked, and you’re just repeating the

      “Same talking point ugh”

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        What question? what that weird analogy about rats? YOU wanted to hear from our perspective, there it is. Seriously what did you ask? Because all you spouted was complete MSM nonsense. Maybe create a list of questions to be answered next time?

        Anyways I am being gullible to not believe this complete propaganda spin that this is “genocide war” against the ukranians? No btw thats not being contrarian, I’ve shown you the reasons how this is not some weird genocide war but you just blocked it out, also I really am not sure why you even used this word in this context other to shut down a conversation you do not like, despite literally asking for it?

        Second you did not ask for proof, again you asked our perspective, if you wanted some proof or information. I can give you a link to a substack which details the SMO. That is if you actually want it at all.