• Tovarish Tomato@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    While I couldn’t give less of a fuck about Venezuela taking Exxon oil, I feel like the US is going to use this as a pretense to do some kind of (military) intervention. Let’s hope they decide that their resources are too tied up in Ukkkraine and Isn’t real, although I doubt they’ll miss an opportunity to meddle in South American affairs.

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      7 months ago

      Guyana is pretty small (800k population), giving them weapons and military training wont be expensive. Still i think they will directly intervene, this may be a very important region.

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    It will be interesting to see how China responds to this, after they recently elevated their relationship to an ‘all-weather strategic partnership’ (only DPRK is higher, iirc):

    “China has always viewed its relations with Venezuela from a strategic and long-term perspective, and firmly supports Venezuela’s efforts to safeguard national sovereignty, national dignity and social stability, as well as Venezuela’s just cause of opposing external interference,” Xi told Maduro.

    “The establishment of an all-weather strategic partnership between China and Venezuela meets the common expectations of the two peoples and conforms to the general trend of historical development,” Xi said, calling on the two sides to push for more fruitful China-Venezuela strategic cooperation, bring more benefits to the two peoples and inject more positive energy into world peace and development.

    Doesn’t seem to involve military support but I can’t see China getting so close with Venezuela only to let the US take over.

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      China will do nothing, as they always do, that is probably by far on their number 1 list of things to adhere, non interference. Specially considering Venezuela is taking territory and it’s not the other way round.

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        7 months ago

        It would be surprising if China did intervene directly. Maybe it could mean support at the UN? Not that it means much.

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          Yeah, diplomatically I’m sure it will do the most it can, but supporting militarily any country in the US’s backyard would be a declaration of world war.

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    7 months ago

    While I support Venezuela’s claim and am not against annexation, I feel like fighting a war in a jungle area is very hard to do. Hopefully it’s a quick war, if they decide to invade.

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    This will be a long, bloody border war that Venezuela can’t afford as it desperately tries to distract its people from their poor material conditions.

    This will only end poorly. The jungle is the last place you want to fight.

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      Guyana doesn’t even have an army, and the size of their defense forces is of 3000 men, Venezuela’s active personnel is something around 300.000, furthermore Venezuela has complete air superiority. If this becomes a battle of attrition it is simply because Guyana decides to align itself with imperial power that may give them some support, if they do this, it will be a blood bath carried out by their leaders in a war that cannot be won, for land that was stolen and it is not theirs.

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        Guyana does not maintain a standing military, but has the ability to raise more people through conscription measures outlined in their constitution.

        They also do not need to commit to total war, as Brazil has begun the mobilization of troops along the in support of Guyana.

        Further, air superiority is all but completely useless in jungle settings, as the US painfully learned in Vietnam and Cambodia, or with the Japanese during WW2.

        Venezuela will destroy Guyana and themselves in a pointless war of attrition over oil and gold.

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          Brazil mobilized troops so that Venezuela doesn’t invade Guyana through Brazil’s border, since it is the easiest way, it is not supporting Guyana at the moment. I highly doubt Guyana can conscript much troops, and even if they do they are untrained men without the proper equipment, even if Venezuela is less successful at conscription they could still get 100.000 men more and that’s already half the population of Guyana if we keep in mind the other 300.000. There’s not amount of support imperialist can give for this war to end in favour of Guyana.

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            Brazil also has no need to pointlessly escalate the conflict, and with Lula’s warning to avoid “foolish gestures”, it doesn’t look like they’d be very favorable to Venezuela if they attempt to seize the region by force. 130,000 men and an armored brigade is a massive and costly amount of troops to mobilize if it wasn’t supposed to be warning.

            The battle lines don’t look very favorable either. Either Venezuela launches amphibious assaults into the most heavily defended and populated parts of Guyana, goes through Brazilian land along the floodplains, or marches through hell on earth by pushing through endless mountainous, inhospitable jungle.

            That last one is a defensive army’s wet dream. Guerrilla fighters do not need a massive amount of training, manpower, and weaponry to wreck havoc on an enemy in that sort of terrain.