• BertramDitore@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    The slap is not cool, there’s no excuse for hitting a kid like that, even if it’s pretty light, but especially when it’s someone else’s kid. But honestly the handing out money thing is even weirder to me.

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      3 months ago

      Also ITT people weirdly defending a leader so spoilt and self absorbed that they didn’t even to stop to think how bad it would look on the world stage before hitting out on a little kid for not making the scripted photo opportunity look perfect.

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    3 months ago

    Sometimes you need to call out media sensationalism. That barely was a slap. It definitely wasn’t injurious, powerplay maybe, locally it may even be judged playful.

    Western sensitivity doesn’t always translate well globally.

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      3 months ago

      Don’t touch other people with out consent should be pretty universal I would hope. Especially someone else’s kid

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        It’s honestly so funny how this is old news, settled peer reviewed behavioral research that conclusively states corporeal punishment is shit parenting used by shit parents that results in shit kids

        And yet every time it comes up, legions of CHUDs crawl out of the woodwork to debate how it totally worked for them and their kids just fine

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          3 months ago

          My favorite so far is that it’s not a shitty person’s behavior, it’s just *their culture*

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      What was the point of the media event? To show how generous he is? With that slap he showed that (1) it’s all for show, because that’s all that mattered to him (2) his insecurities about respect are so out of control that he couldn’t just explain to the kid what to do, he just instinctively slapped him and (3) that some little kid has more emotional maturity and self restraint in public than a grown adult.

      This isn’t a big deal because of the child, it’s just an embarrassing loss of face in public for someone obviously trying too hard to pretend that he’s popular.

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      When insecurity is so deep, a forced, fake display is preferable to the real wonder of a real human, child no less.

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      Yeah, watching it gives a more accurate impression than just the headline “slapped”. Still he is trying to use physical force (however light) to get someone else’s child to comply. Also for a politician shows little self control, and gives an indication of his “problem solving”

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      I’m from the States and have spent a more than a decade living in other countries, and have had plenty of time to see how people around the world interact with their (and other people’s) children. I have to agree with you that this really doesn’t seem like a big deal.

      It looks really bad from a western perspective, especially for people that have no understanding of other cultures.

      Do I agree with it, no. That’s just my personal preference though. He didn’t backhand, punch, or otherwise harm the child, and the child didn’t even seem phased by it.

      Had he done this in a country other than Turkey it may be newsworthy, this just seems like rage bait.

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    Oh FFS, he did not slap that kid. Did he touch his face to correct behavior, I’d say yes. But this was not a slap.

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      So kissing his had is appropriate behavior? Erdodan is not a king and is not the Pope. He can fuck right off with “correcting behavior”

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      That’s literally the definition of a slap. If he hit him particularly hard or not doesn’t change that it was a slap. He used his open palm to hit him. It’s a slap.

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      It was gentle, yes, but Erdogan showed no self restraint whatsoever and just slapped the kid straight away. He didn’t even think about it. The kid showed more emotional maturity and self restraint in public than Erdogan did. Turkiye loses face internationally if it’s president can’t control his insecurity in public.

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      In what parallel univers do you live?

      Turkey applied to join the EU and it’s predecessors since 1987 but an application is not an acceptance. And it will definitely NOT happen while Erdoğan is their head of state.

      The EU never declined Ukraine’s application, but the process is a very bureaucratic and lengthy one. Ukraines application is on a good way and they will be a full EU member way before that’s ever on the table for Turkey.

      You might be talking about the NATO. Turkey is a member since 1952. Way before Erdoğans time and while Ukraine was still part of the UDSSR. But again, Ukraine wasn’t denied here either. They are well on their way to become a NATO member.