Rep. Rashida Tlaib: “But Palestinians are not just numbers. Behind these numbers are real people — mothers, fathers, sons, daughters — who have had their lives stolen from them and their families torn apart. And we should not be trying to hide it. These are innocent children and babies who have been bombed in their tents, burned alive, dismembered and deliberately starved to death. Where is our shared humanity in this chamber? There is so much anti-Palestinian racism in this chamber that my colleagues don’t even want to acknowledge that Palestinians exist at all, not when they’re alive and now not even when they’re dead. It’s absolutely disgusting. This is genocide denial.”

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    I Wouldn’t expect any less from this gold plated cesspool founded on genocide, slavery, and exploitation.

    “herp derp but we saved the world and beat the Nazis!” Yeah, we fought and defeated the Axis… after they decimated our pacific fleet and brought the war to us. Prior to that, eugenics were popular here, and practiced. Hell, some of our most infamous capitalists supplied and financed both sides of that war, after all, private profit is what America is all about.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/

    We’re dogshit, all the way back to the zealots fleeing Europe to be bigger religious prudes and nutters. The only amazing thing about our country is its ridiculously massive, undeserved ego.

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      Not to mention that they didn’t join the war until the Russians and Germans had bled themselves dry on the eastern front and the soviets were well on their way to Berlin.

      If you wanted to debate who won the war based on how many of their men, women, military and civilian sacrificed themselves willingly and unwillingly, the Russians were far and away the obvious victors.

      20 million compared to America’s half million during the war.

      The Russians died and killed more Germans than the Americans.

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        The absolute scale of the Eastern Front compared to the Western Front is mind-boggling, and American media and education downplays the tremendous sacrifices made by the Red Army and how much they accomplished.

        During the war, the Western Allies were more than happy to have Nazi Germany and the USSR bleed each other out as much as possible, and then pretend they were team members on equal footing.

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        they didn’t join the war until the Russians and Germans had bled themselves dry on the eastern front and the soviets were well on their way to Berlin.

        Your timeline is way off here. The US joined the war against Germany on Dec. 11th 1941, less than six months after Germany’s invasion of the USSR which had not yet even stalled out in front of Moscow. The Soviets weren’t “well on their way to Berlin” until late 1944, nearly three years later. Your other points are valid enough that you don’t need to utterly mangle your first one.

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          And American businesses didn’t mind being allied with the Nazis leading up to the war (Hitler saw Henry Ford, an out and out antisemite, as an inspiration and was given the highest nazi award to a foreigner), plenty of American businesses either directly or indirectly helped to finance the German war machine leading up to the war, Nazi Germany didn’t build a multimillion dollar war machine in a global vacuum … and then America allied with Nazi veterans AFTER the war … it’s basically Nazi scientists that sent them to the moon.

          Everyone made deals with the devil to benefit themselves at different times for different reasons.

          We can’t point out one side allying with nazis and ignore others who did the same.

          Even in Canada where I’m from a lot of critics and historians have pointed out that after the war … it was far more easier and acceptable to be a Nazi or a Fascist then it was to be a Socialist or Communist.

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      …our most infamous capitalists supplied and financed both sides…

      Not the least of whom happened to be Fred Trump, the former president’s father. Unfortunately there is a large gap in his FBI file before and after the war, where we would expect to find documented proof of these activities. Still, it seems pretty clear what happened, and he certainly didn’t hide his racism publicly.

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    The only lesson learned from the COVID years: if you stop reporting the numbers, the numbers stop going up.

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      it always irks me when someone says that biden handled covid when he simply had the numbers hidden from the public like a few state governors and trump tried to do, but got a lot of blowback for it.

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          i think you mean to imply that there’s no obfuscation of covid data since we can lookup covid stats from the cdc; like everything with a strong enough political quality, the devil is intentionally situated in the details to hide it from those who don’t look close enough like this example. i’ll provide the article supporting it if i can find them and assuming they’re still around.

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    The parallels between Ukraine and Gaza has made it clear that if you want public outrage those babies better be white or else they will be reported as collateral damage instead of genocide.

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    “…with a death total so high that we have been banned from telling you the number…”

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      that anything coming from a gazan mouth must be propaganda; but they’re the only ones on the ground counting their numbers are smaller than others’ estimates

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      The American Empire requires Israel as an Imperialist foothold in the Middle East. They will protect Israel and manufacture consent as much as they can to prevent public backlash.

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        They actually don’t even need Israel, Turkey is our NATO ally already and has the same access to the sea. Obviously Erdogan is a authoritarian dickshit, but at least they’re not actively committing a genocide.

        Israel has no dramatic geopolitical value to the US at this point, they’re basically just a client. Though you wouldn’t think it by the way Netanyahu yanks Biden around by his testicles. The unquestioning support for Israel is ideological for people like Biden, and for others it’s all the money from AIPAC and JStreet

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          This vote, not to mention the history of the last 70 years, shows that they very much do think they need Israel.

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    Bought, cheaply, and paid for by AIPAC. Until this war I had no idea how politically deep they are.