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Go fuck yourself

Sincerely, a member of the “Holy Western Imperial Horde” (the US)

You really come off as a massive fucking twat to all of us who are trapped in the US and have no where to go. Like we enjoy fascism. And voting to save ourselves is just a stupid waste of time. So we should just rot in place and accept it instead of casting a smelly vote for a democrat. Whats four more years of stability if my life doesn’t match your academic philosophy? Actually fuck you. Enjoy being Not American so you can crudely point and laugh. You’re a myopic piece of shit.

As if Trump would be good for Mexico either. Jesus Christ.

The scariest thing about Nazis is that they’re human and even pretty smart sometimes. To reiterate what others are saying: dehumanization leaves you in a blind spot for the humans around you who can silently undergo vast transformations from people you thought you loved into Nazis. They throw away their humanity yes, but they had to be human to throw it away. Dehumanization is also how the process of becoming a Nazi starts. Don’t even mirror it in jest, try on radical empathy and face the truth: humans are horrifically complex. Nazis are unfortunately humans.

Really now

Berlin was the capital of the leading Axis power. Palestine is an apartheid state. Fucks your point.

Alienating and othering people… makes you no better than a Nazi. Because when your opponent has no face and you’ve already decided their deaths are acceptable to you, other opponents will follow. You’ll make a habit of hating and being directed to hate like you already have calling humans “orcs”. Tomorrow it’ll be Iranians or Mexicans or Koreans. You’re not above it.

Holy fuck. I’m taken aback. I have no cogent response to your lack of human consideration for the people of Palestine other than to tell you to go fuck yourself and I hope you never have to experience something like what they’re going through. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind you callous fuckwhit.

Bet you call Russians orcs too. Jesus.

Hey I feel and agree with you about a lot here but wtf

Supposedly all to make a statement about Gaza’s importance, something a lot of Americans actually don’t agree with simply because Gazans are not very easy to sympathize with. And that’s not only because of racism.

How is this any way to talk about… anyone? I don’t need them to be easy to sympathize with, they are automatically entitled to it. Cuz they’re dying. Lets be real clear. Our governments involvement with Israel is fucking awful and Americans have blood on our hands. We can agree or disagree about our own politics but don’t let animosity get the better of you. We are brutalizing innocent people. You and I owe them dignity even if our lifestyles aren’t compatible with theirs or whatever.

Yeah this os Facebook grandma stuff. What the hell.

I really feel like you’re forgetting this

I think the guy’s heart is in the right place though, I think he just hasn’t done the legwork yet on studying how modern socialist states are moving on lgbt issues and why they’re doing so.

is how you defend that above screenshot people are pointed out. I don’t understand how you can’t see the contradiction implicit. A person’s heart can’t be in the right place if they say things like what was said in the original comment. It occurs to me on reread maybe I don’t understand it? It’s a bit ambiguously worded. But it has popped up before in these conversations and its cited whenever l.ml users reach out to the other big gay instances.

We should accept each other not based on “how modern socialist states are moving”. That phrase “doing the leg work” is doing a lot of leg work being nonspecific about what someone is actually learning and internalizing.

Its just uncomfortable to be in a supposedly welcoming space where allyship arises from first principles and not from real empathy. Its not a college class you can study for.

I think this is a community organiser and not a faceless national government. Making lgbt policy and learning in your personal life to be better aren’t the same thing. Not dissimilar to when right wingers call something “political.”

One would think class struggle would be the first thing socialists would appeal to instead of a milquetoast attempts to reassure people “its okay, the Revolutionary Cause are slowly learning to view you as people!”

Man is a person. He answers to a community. He’s not actually a party official of the revolutionary guard and you and I are allowed to demand better. The way I wrote the last post gave you ample opportunity clap back at me with proof from Dessines that he felt differently, which I honestly expect exists somewhere at least as damage control. But instead we are arguing the semantics over whether a man should take responsibilty for his own bigotry or whether the entire global leftist project should bear that burden for him. I’d rather be slurred to my face than have people bullshit me we’re on the same side while talking about us like we’re props; if only the right ideological mutant strain of intersectional communism that you personally advocate for as being inevitable were to triumph, then the callous way we’re discussed will have been justified. You’re sharing the table with a bigot, or at least you’re leaving a chair open with this rhetoric of pragmatic “usefulness to the cause”. I am happy to be proven wrong (for the sake of .ml’s community) but even if I am this line of reasoning you employ just does not work.

I don’t really know the drama around this guy except The Screenshot everybody posts so I’m not going to act as if I care about his personal opinions, but I don’t like what I see as hypocrisy. There can be no allyship with someone who understands our experience purely through the lens of political opportunism. Empathy is the real prerequisite for decency here. There is a lot of talk on this guy and whether he updated his stance after that screenshot but I don’t think it matters unless he signals himself a understanding of lgbt people as human fools trapped in the same exploitation he is. And hell I don’t know, maybe he wrote that post awhile ago, and if he did good for him. But it rather seems like he lets people speak for him on this issue.

Maybe try a bit harder. This is a very easy mistake to make if you don’t cook often. He was twenty. So maybe you can keep your bullshit deep inside and say nothing if you have nothing substantial to say. People don’t live and die for your fucking approval.

Forcing pronoun disclosure is not necessarily helpful to the trans community, especially those questioning. Do you guys have a questioning tag or something? We have a few users bouncing around on Beehaws for instance that don’t concieve of themselves as human. This stuff is complicated.

This is a weird take. Lgbt people shouldn’t need to be a useful pawn for socialism in order to be treated with respect. We deserve rights and respect because we’re as human as the rest of you theoretically. If someone ostensibly left-wing or socialist needs to read theory in order value my life and needs as a proletarian ally then they can necessarily be no ally of mine. More work needs to be done beyond tacit academic acceptance.

What other minority has to be vetted for their use before being welcomed into your so-called revolutionary project?

Godot is WOKE and queerdo indie devs are using it to make WOKE games because they are UNCREATIVE HACKS who can’t into game engine thats why WE FORKED GODOT AND CHANGED ONE LETTER

Oh so its now completely impossible to stop a brigade by shuttering a subreddit for a day or two without begging some pea brain Reddit stooge. That won’t lead to anything putrid happening to small and medium subreddits on a regular basis I hope.

My friend you are talking to a dork or possibly a bot. Lemmy is infested. Maybe its a paid troll or maybe they’re just fucking strikingly stupid/accelerationists (but I repeat myself) but they’re basically out here to drive you mad. Talk to your real world friends about this topic and try phonebanking.

If it were up to this individual Trump would have walked into office on Jan 20th 2021 right after attempting a fascist coup. Because then the matetial conditions for The Revolution would come or something. Every four years like clockwork the accelerationists backed by bots come out of the woodwork to try and make sure Donald Trump wins because WHOEVER he is running against must be worse, not by dint of actually being a worse person or statesman than DJT, but because they’re not the FALGSC messiah. You’re talking to a death cultist.

Interesting, thank you for the reply. I am not a hacker nor a gnostic but I have a slight fascination with the latter. But on hacking: while there’s merit to your position that hacker culture is reactionary I have to ask what do you think of hacker collectives like the one that leaked Project 2025 or other noble computer nerd activities? It seems to me like a hacker is exercizing another avenue of power over her world like jumping or singing. Thinking the online world is seperate and intangible from our non-online experience seems to be making the mistake of dualism in upholding one sphere of reality over the other/s.

hacker culture is intrinsically gnostic and reactionary

Do you nind elaborating a bit?

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