• ashok36@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    If you’re mad at Biden, why would you vote for someone that promises to be worse?

    There’s no sense to it. The only message you will be sending is that you approve of even greater atrocities.

    Also, in case you’re completely blind, Netanyahu wants Trump back in office. He’s going to do everything he can to stay in power and convincing rubes to vote for Trump because “genocidin Biden” is part of his strategy.

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      5 months ago

      How would Trump be worse for the Palestinians?
      Would Bibi bomb even harder? Because he seems to be ignoring international pressure now. Would Trump give even more bombs to Bibi? Because there doesn’t seem to be a handle on the throttle now.
      Trump moved the embassy. Did biden move it back?
      Trumps despicable. There’s lots of reasons to prefer biden come November, but how is biden better on this issue?

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        How would Trump be worse for the Palestinians?

        https://wapo.st/3wSKnDY

        Trump told donors he will crush pro-Palestinian protests, deport demonstrators

        Trump has waffled on whether the Israel-Gaza war should end. But speaking to wealthy donors behind closed doors, he said that he supports Israel’s right to continue “its war on terror.”

        “Israel, Trump argued, needs his help. Street demonstrations for Israel get smaller crowds than his rallies, he said.”

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          That’s despicable for sure.
          That’s not any different from the Palestinian point of view though

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            It’s hard to say. Trump would certainly ensure that there’s no change in policy. He could potentially encourage Netanyahu to be more brutal and carpet bomb the whole place.

            I’d like to think though that the pro Palestinian protests are going to affect change, and have already caused the administration to make some better choices, like when they stopped a shipment of bombs recently because they were concerned it could kill a lot of civilians if Israel used it in Rafah.

            I look at it this way. The protests are the best way to try and push our foreign policy in a better direction, and we have seen some Democrats start to listen. Pelosi of all people flat out disagrees with the idea of Johnson inviting Netanyahu to speak to the House. It’s taken time, but I think the protests are slowly succeeding. I think they will matter.

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            5 months ago

            Yes it is. Imagine stopping every single drop of aif that is currently happening. Imagine US-Bombers actively bombing the strip.

            It can and it will get worse.

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        Yes, bibi would bomb even harder. Bibi would kill every last Palestinian if he could. Yes, Trump would give even more bombs, and tanks, and aircraft, and whatever else Israel asked for. Bibi would literally have carte Blanche with Trump in the white house. If that’s what you, along with at least two more supreme court appointments, mass deportation, an end to birthright citizenship, and oh by the way, the effective end of elections in this country then go ahead and vote against Biden. Maybe you’ll be second or third against the wall if you’re lucky.

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          Wow.
          Can’t put any criticism against Biden here…
          We’re clear that every Republican candidate is worse than the last. Voting biden in 2024 will help the short term. You’re going from crisis to crisis. It’s by design. Can’t put the neighborhood fire out if you’re always worried about your house.

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            5 months ago

            Criticism of Biden is fine. Floating the idea of voting for anyone but Biden is fucking mental. This is as binary a choice as you will ever have when it comes to presidents.

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          Bibi is under international pressure not just from US. I can’t see how he could go harder if the US stopped pressuring him while still publicly defending him.