Well, regardless of what you think of their politics, that’s a huge loss for a country with the position Iran is in right now. I hope they manage to keep calm and prevent foreign shit starting.
It’s mind boggling to me that lemmygrad is the only place I’ve yet seen anyone show some sort of respect for a world leader dying in a violent accident. Everywhere in the media and online all I’m seeing is people glad he’s dead. As if he’s ever done anything to any of us to deserve that.
There’s a pretty long list of other world leaders who if they went out violently like this, I’d be all ripbozo smoking on the prez pack. Unfortunately, Raeisi is not one of them.
I likewise wouldn’t be too fussed over most other world leaders going out in a similar fashion, for sure. But not for ones that actually happen to be on the right side of history.
Interesting string of coincidences with a plot on Vucic, attempt on Fico, and now this.
I didn’t want to put on my tinfoil hat and go all conspiracy theory on this but I was thinking the same
lol right, like it’s just such a wild coincidence
Vučić could go honestly ASAP… They also faked ‘‘assassination’’ attempts on him multiple times in media over the years to the point where it became a meme, examples include: alleged plan to snipe him where they put a cut photo of him visiting weapon exhibition, other one to allegedly blow him up with a rocket launcher, grenade launcher, mine etc etc.
You know scratch-that, just oof the entire Balkan political scene, this is 9th circle of hell.
This hurts. I really wish the best for the iranian people. Even through this tough times, I hope they can come stronger from this.
The main purpose of a helicopter is to kill people.
Flying is a secondary feature.
Rip Kobe
Kobe was a multi-millionaire though who avoided paying taxes with dubious charities and shoe donation write offs
Yeah, but ball in hoop good
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What does this mean?
How does this affect Iran’s position against the Empire? I admittedly know little of it’s internal politics and I assume Raeisi isn’t the strongman glue keeping the anti imperial alignment in working order like Putin, and Iran will still be able to overcome this with comparatively little internal strife to other anti imperialist nations. Such a dumb fucking way to go in a critical time, rest in peace.
I doubt it will, beyond sparking anger depending on the results of the investigation; AFAICT most people in Iran are anti-imperialist, and Khamenei is still there (although I’m not well informed on the extent of his political power)
I’m not well informed either, but every Western media outlet has suddenly decided to condemn Raeisi as “the executioner of the regime”, “the butcher of Tehran” etc. Meanwhile, they’ve started pushing the narrative that in the upcoming elections to replace him, the current regime will collapse and “democratic forces” will prevail, because of the protests that were going on a while ago.
This tells me three things:
a) Raeisi might or might not have been a decent guy, but he was most likely quite popular.
b) The current Iranian government will come out of this crisis just fine.
c) The West will be trying to incite another color revolution in Iran in the coming weeks/months.
In case you are interested, Ben Norton has a good video on Raeisi’s anti imperialists and anti colonialists policies. I added the video here https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/4300675
I will look at it. Thank you comrade!
Raisi was one of the people who executed leftists en masse during the leftist crackdown fiasco. Hardly anyone you should give a fuck about
Do you mean Khamenei? Khomeini is long dead.
whoops, thanks 😬
ارقد بسلام . 🌹
not good. how do we feel about fellow ‘communists’ or ‘leftists’ celebrating this?
they likely don’t understand the concept of critical support and/or have a prejudice against Iran based on Western bourgeois media
like any capitalist country outside of the imperial core, Iran has plenty of internal contradictions, but it’s still one of the main bulwarks against imperialism in the region
Very weird to celebrate
I’m no fan of current Iranian governance, or even Hamas. I understand why they exist, but I wouldn’t choose to live under their governments. That doesn’t mean I want their leaders dying since I can see their importance to resisting US imperialism.
I would say this is like disagreeing with how China has developed since their revolution. Am I a huge fan of all of it? Of course not. That doesn’t mean I would celebrate Xi dying or China dissolving it’s communist party. Not to compare them to Iran too much, obviously very different things, but western “leftists” (they’re liberals really most of the time) see them as “bad guys” with zero nuance or perspective. Important perspective such as no matter how authoritarian Iran is or brutal to its citizens (and i have no doubt that many stories have core truths to them. The stories we read about life there) will ever compare to the brutality the US empire has unleashed on places like Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Iraq, Iran (hmm), entirety of South America, Mexico, etc. basically the entire globe. So, are they bad in some ways? Undoubtedly. But the bigger bad, that they resist, is the US military and empire. And this can’t be forgotten. You don’t have to praise Iran’s government in order to see that it is the lesser evil compared to the US and also it only exists because of the US and now Israeli interference in the region.
And this lesser evil is ACTUALLY a a significantly less evil thing than the US, unlike how crakkker Demo-rats try to portray Biden as some kind of lesser evil over Trump although he’s not.
I have no sympathy for fellow “communists” and “leftists” who break ranks on the anti-imperialist front, personally. I could understand some satisfaction if they’d personally suffered under the present government- but even then, celebrating is a step too far and would make them compradors.
I’m Iranian and I’m celebrating this
He was a useless sack of shit conservative who nobody really cared about, even the hardcore right wingers weren’t too fond of him
out of curiosity, do you live in Iran?
Yes
R.I.P.
Is the cause known yet? Because if someone form foreign country caused this, there could be unseen consequences.
Helicopter crashed into a mountain in basically zero visibility fog. Chuck Shumer said that the is suspected no foul play. Sounds to be just an accident. If I remember, this is what brought down Kobes helicopter too
Oh, yes it’s the same thing as Kobe. So nothing then for now.
But what about other 2 helicopters which were flying alongside, how did they not crash?
But what about other 2 helicopters which were flying alongside, how did they not crash?
Probably had more experience with flying by instruments only, or they were just being more cautious.
With rotary aircraft, instrument experience varies a lot more from pilot to pilot than fixed wing, that and fixed wing aircraft have a lot more altitude to cushion any mistakes of an inexperienced pilot.
Yeah makes sense, but weird that they put the president in less experienced one.
If I was a betting guy, I would guess the pilot was current/former revolutionary guard. Military pilots may have more flight time/experience, but they probably don’t spend a lot of it in low vis conditions. Not a lot of reason to have military helicopters operate in conditions where they wouldn’t be able to see targets on the ground.
Most of these accidents happen just like it did with Kobe. Where the pilots tell their passengers that it’s too dangerous to operate, and the passengers insist they need to get where they’re going anyways.
*Zero visibility fog induced by a CIA weather machine
It’s plausible that this was perpetrated by a foreign entity or even an internal struggle for power, and that the Iranian state knows. It is plausible that the state would still not make this information public. The state and its allies (Syria) has a history of concealing information on this scale, because publicizing this information may make the state look weak, or have the people demanding a military response, which may be unnecessary escalation.
Must have been a Terrible way to go. Rest in peace.
الله يرحمهم
Current funeral processions in Iran:
I know literally nothing about this guy so I’m not sure what the proper position is.
Geopolitical Economy report have a good video about him that this youtuber cooked recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPKOhHcnvc
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: