• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I guess you’re not well-acqainted with US history? You know… the parts that inspired the Nazis and the Apartheid-regime?

    I don’t think you know how bad it can get… or how bad it already is for the people the US designates as “other.” And pretending that this can all be blamed on a cartoon fascist is peak white liberalism.

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      6 months ago

      I am, that’s why I know that the lived reality in Germany and the US doesn’t resemble Nazi Germany in the slightest. The pogrom in Rostock-Lichtenhagen, the MOVE bombing, the Waco siege, and so on happened decades ago. In Nazi Germany, the state wantonly attacking “others” on that scale while crushing resistance like that was the daily norm, cheered on by the general public.

      There’s absolutely no comparison to what’s happening these days: not in scale, not in public acceptance, and not in institutionalization. It’s tragic what people are suffering from, but it’s completely insane to think that we’re living under fascism. Have you seen the images of Auschwitz? Have you read a single interview with someone who actually survived fascism?

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        6 months ago

        I am

        So you are aware as to how the phenomenon we refer to as fascism today has always been a fundamental aspect built right into the very foundations of the US and every other classical liberal nation state?

        If you’re not, you need to go back to reading.

        the MOVE bombing, the Waco siege, and so on happened decades ago.

        And what has actually changed since then? Has the function fascism renders to the liberal nation state magically disappeared, perhaps?

        and not in institutionalization.

        Really? What kind of armaments do the most visible form of institutionalized fascism (ie, the police) carry around these days?

        but it’s completely insane to think that we’re living under fascism.

        You’ve been living with it all your life. You just don’t recognize it because the liberals don’t take the leash off their pet fascists around you.

        Have you read a single interview with someone who actually survived fascism?

        Lots of people survive fascism - like everybody in my country that was born before 1990. Your conception of fascism is downright cartoonish - that’s why you are so incapable of realizing that you are already living with it all around you.