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    6 months ago

    It’s not arbitrary, it’s earnt. It’s been cheap reg breaking (and spec breaking) stuff for decades. Things made of “Chinesium” are known for amazing cheapness not quality. It’s going to take a while for Chinese cars to shake off that baggage.

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      6 months ago

      At this point, baseless prejudice against Chinese EVs is just that.

      They have high safety ratings, BYD has the highest safety testing Europe offers, they’ve been selling for years in Australia and Europe, and Tesla has doors and roofs falling off, Plus they just issued a recall for literally all cyber trucks because they built the accelerator pedal wrong.

      If you don’t trust euro automotive standards, say that, don’t complain about the safety standards set by Europe that Chinese EVs are exceeding.

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        6 months ago

        It is not baseless if there is form with other goods. Let’s not pretend Chinese manufacturing has a good reputation. Time with the cars being good will fix that, but it is still a thing to overcome.

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          6 months ago

          Chinese EVs have been sold internationally for years, they’re performing better than other cars and test better and safer, other companies have failed those tests yet your only concerns are about Chinese cars.

          Your “concerns” are simple prejudice by your own standards.

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            6 months ago

            I’m sure over time, if they keep up a good standard, the whole “Chinesium” thing will go away. Would help if other stuff from China was better made too.

            The world needs EVs at the price, range and quality these appear to be. European and American companies will only bought a bit of time by fear of “Chinesium” and spyware.

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              6 months ago

              You’re casting aspersions at the wrong people. The companies setting the manufacturing parameters requesting she’s importing the cheap and poorly manufactured products from China are not Chinese companies, they are American, Euro, other countries’ companies requesting poor and unsafe products to sell to you.

              Look at Decathlon. A fantastic French sportswear and sports equipment company that designs all of their own products, sends the designs and manufacture specifications to factories in southern China, where Chinese factories manufacture clothing and hiking/sports equipment to those specifications and you have durable, dependable, comfortable sportswear and equipment that matches or surpasses similar products of any country I’ve ever been to.

              Or you have Mattel or Walmart or Amazon ordering the cheapest fibers without specifying the manufacturer or design of the product and you have bath mats that give your feet rashes or air fryers that burn out after 3 weeks.

              The racist and inaccurate epithet “Chinesium” describes the poor manufacturing requested by Americans, Europeans, and every other country that asks China to manufacture cheap products for them at the expense of quality and safety, not the manufacturing capability or contemporary product range of Chinese factories.

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                6 months ago

                I said right at the beginning of this Amazon, EBay, etc where to blame too. I’d also blame US and EU regulators for not coming down on substandard stuff being sold on these platforms by drop shippers and flyby night companies. China manufacturing has got more tarring than those platforms and I agree it is unfair, but AliExpress is no better and is not a US/EU platform.

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                  6 months ago

                  That’s my whole point.

                  Your arguments about “Chinesium” are racist and unwarranted if you have any idea about a) how products supply chains work or b) stick to the topic of EVs, which passes all of your targeted requirements but you maintain is still bad in some way solely because of their ethnicity.

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                    6 months ago

                    You haven’t picked up I’m not saying for sure they are bad. Just that I have low trust because of past non-EV product experience. Lots of people in this boat. That’s just reality.