• EthicalAI@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Trains aren’t 100% the answer, but cars should be the last answer. Still we should electrify cars.

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      1 year ago

      yeah, electricity should just be used everywhere.
      most other energy types can be easily and efficiently converted to it, and it makes it easy to increase efficiency.
      (power production and consumption are separated in electrical cars, so by making your power stations more efficient you make all of the cars that use them greener)

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          1 year ago

          EV’s are so much more efficient that even running from electricity produced by coal, they are significantly better than ICE (internal combustion engine) cars. Just the electricity used to refine enough fuel to drive 100mi would be enough to drive an average EV more than 60mi. (This detail gets conveniently left out when comparing ICE cars to EVs).

          We still need to decarbonise the grid, and as that happens, all electric cars (regardless of age) will become less polluting too. Having an unclean grid is not an excuse to keep using ICE vehicles.

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            1 year ago

            I didn’t consider that refining fuel takes energy too. Does the drilling and transport get factored in to that as well?

            Thanks for sharing the info!

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              1 year ago

              The numbers I’ve used are only for the refining of the fuel. This video by Mark Linthicum (hosted on the Fully Charged channel) gives an amazing amount of information on the topic.