• theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
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    6 months ago

    First of all, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They no longer govern it. In addition, they have been allowing huge amounts of cash flowing into the region and they are even unable to impose a full blockade considering the border with Egypt. If Palestinians are so peace-loving individuals, why the relations with Egpyt are far from ideal, too? Hence why it is mostly Hamas responsible for the situation in Gaza.

    So yes, a response is fully excepted if members of a different state (that by the way wants to exterminate Israel) illegally cross the border.

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      6 months ago

      No. Israel pulled its settlements out of Gaza but they land and sea blockaded it since 2007 and turned it into an open air prison and kept bombing it. Israel controls all the borders, including the Egypt crossings due to their treaty with Egypt that allows them veto power over who can cross from Egypt.

      Egypt is a dictatorship that mistreats minorities, if you want to compare Israel favorably to them then be my guest.

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      6 months ago

      First of all, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They no longer govern it.

      This is such a pathetic excuse, not to mention just a parrot point of pro-Zionist racists.

      So they left Gaza, and yet they control every fucking thing that goes in and out?? Looks like they just left so they can keep making this pathetic point while still cutting off water and electricity whenever they feel like it.

      Get that head out of that ass please.

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        6 months ago

        If Israel controls the import so much, how come they have so many weapons and so much money?

        If they were as locked as you say, they would not be able to create such an attack.

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              6 months ago

              Because that state is the one at war with them… they stole their lands, displaced them, and bombed them every few years for resisting colonialism and invasion.

              You would not find it acceptable to live under thr rule of an occupier, so why should I as a Palestinian?

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                6 months ago

                I don’t know how organizing terrorist attacks from time to time and then refusing 2 state solution can be considered a resistance. EDIT: To me it seems like they chose the all or nothing route.

                Also, it is still counter productive for Palestinians to attack israel when they are reliant of them.

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                  6 months ago

                  I don’t know how being an apartheid state all the time for 75+ years then refusing a two state solution can be considered a democratic legal state…

                  You make it sound like Palestinians are dogs fed by Israelis… if you colonize a nation, you are obliged to provide for them. If Israel doesn’t want Gazans to be “reliant” on their “generous donations” of food and water, they should not have sieged them and abused them day in and day out.

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                    6 months ago

                    Issue with this argument is that there was never a palestinian state. It was ruled by Britain and then Britain left and let UN decide. UN decided to create 2 news states that never existed before. It was not like someone had a state before and then UN came and chopped part of it.