I really need an explanation on this since people are not shutting up for months that EU is apparently putting insects in food for the people to be forced to buy and feed on like survivalists in jungle would? I know that EU is completely unhinged nazi hellhole and whatnot, but to this extent to feed themselves on bugs? I don’t think so.
Can somebody please tell me about this, they are not shutting up about it on social media for months?!
It’s a propaganda campaign by reactionaries to disrupt all discussions about the relationship between meat and climate change. Now any time anyone says that we need to decrease beef and pork consumption, it’s proof that “they” want to force us to live in shipping containers and eat bugs. There are huge industrial interests that don’t want the public to seriously engage with the idea that we are going to have to change our diets or anything else to adapt to a changing world.
From what I can tell insects are sometimes looked at as an alternative to meat. It’s nutritious and is far less damaging to the environment. I don’t think it’s a weird thing to do, apart from ignoring various plant based meat alternatives.
Now, you have some weird people out there, claiming we should all eat bugs or purposely sending pictures of whole grasshoppers for people to eat. I think that’s partly to blame by the meat lobby or just some racist bullshit about Africans eating bugs.
I don’t think bug burgers are going to win against plant based ones or lab grown meat if it ever gets that far. Not that I have to worry about that, I don’t eat meat in the first place.
Wait, the “other cultures eat bugs” thing is a racist stereotype?
Everyone eats bugs already though. The acceptable limit of bugs in food is greater than zero.
It is just a right wing meme about the future hell scape created by their scapegoat and totally not by capitalism.
They think European consumption being equalized with Africans means that they’ll have to eat bugs, because this is their view of Africa…
And not shit like, chocolate being more expensive (relative to wages) and less available because African farmers aren’t being superexploited by Neo-Colonialism.
I checked an international english exam (hippo english olympiad) who’s participants are mostly from global south countries and it had an article on eating insects that even suggested vegans to eat insects.
I see the suggestion of “eat insect to combat climate change” similar to if the brits told indians to eat a cows and pork to stop a famine they’ve started. Of course bugs are edible and eating them can help or someshit, but this is just watering down the climate change issue as a natural occurrence instead of something entirely caused by those same ones telling us to eat insects.
It’s a psyop by museums to get a new generation to eat candied insects.
Sorry, I don’t really know. Is it part of an anti-vegan campaign? Is it simply hedging bets against mammal farming? Is the EU’s plan to sneak cricket powder into food a larger plot to loosen food standards? I’m afraid I have more questions than you!
Reactionaries really hate it though. They think a Jewish (old-school anti-semite) or transgender (new, hip anti-semite) world government is going to force everyone to eat bugs and live in pods. Typical right wing conspiracy stuff.
Is it part of an anti-vegan campaign?
Remeber how Marx in Capital wrote about multitute of methods to increase the rate of exploitation or worker class? One of chief methods there is to decrease the costs of labour reproduction, that is, the lowering the workers livelihood. Including cost of food, Marx given example how potatoes massively replaced bread in workers diet. There are multiple examples in the last centuries, junk food, chemical treating of foods in market etc. etc.
Bugs are next step, and the media campaign for it is normalisation of something that is universally treated as incredibly repulsive in basically every European culture - eating bugs is basically synonym for starvation, and even in starvation people sometimes prefer to die rather than eat bugs.
So i think this is not as much anti vegan as anti worker and pro bourgeoisie.
Finally, an actual Marxist analysis of the situation. So many of the other comments here sound, unfortunately, like something you’d find on liberal reddit under a post about “green lifestyles.”
Let’s not pretend the stigma against veganism doesn’t exist.
It definitely does, and it makes it much easier to for them to push this shit.
Sure it does but proper vegan diet for workers is still less exploitative than bugs, so while that might get the idealist antivegans on board of that train, the material reason for that drive is still the same - intensifying exploitation.
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As a vegetarian, I really don’t see the difference. I don’t want to eat bugs because the concept of eating meat sounds gross, but I don’t understand how someone can eat other kinds of meat yet find insects disgusting.
Yeah, both are wrong
Insect well-being dictates that it would not be appropriate to farm them
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I care much more about the well being of humans than insects.
There is no reason to care about a human being that provides you no benefit more than an animal, other than pure prejudice. Human beings do not have “greater moral value” or some insane shit like that. The only possible justification we could use to prioritize human beings is some variant of “might makes right” bullshit which is just fascist schlock and leaves no room for the human beings that aren’t “mighty”. Or some weird pseudo scientific argument that animals feel less pain than us or something, but everyone agrees that’s highly suspect anyways.
Either all conscious life is sacred, none of it is, or the life that you care about or directly benefits you is sacred. So, it’s valid to care about humans more, but don’t pretend it’s an objectively correct belief, because there is no such thing in that field. I could claim that crickets are way more important than human beings and have about as much grounding as you as long as I legitimately believed that.
Does it make more sense to prioritize human beings because we’re all human and want to be prioritized? Yeah, that makes sense. But hurting animals is still sus under that logic.
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Just because something is “marxist” doesn’t make it objectively correct. I don’t limit myself to things Marxists did because that’s a silly bastardization of Marxism.
I can take inspiration, but that’s a different thing entirely.
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I’m willing to listen to environmentalist arguments for veganism. Likewise, to people who (like monks in certain religious traditions) embrace veganism or vegetarianism as a kind of spiritual practice.
What I don’t have time for is the concept that human beings need to stop seeing themselves as superior to other animals. It reeks of muddled thinkers like Count Leo Tolstoy. More importantly, it goes against the basic principal of Juche, that humanity, as “the most precious thing in the material universe,” “is the master of all things and decides all things.” I am all for humane treatment of animals, but the needs of humanity come first.
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There would be nothing stopping a literal Nazi from making the same arguments to justify sacrificing people they don’t like to the meat grinder of fascism.
Actually, there is, because under the Juche philosophy the characteristic human traits – independence, creativity, consciousness – are held to be social in origin, not individual. There is no ubermensch in Juche, because there is no individual who possesses his or her “superior” characteristics innately and individually.
Yeah, no, this is just weird colonial-settler thinking but applied to humans instead of specifically white people.
Nobody really ever changes their minds in this sort of debate, but – don’t you think it’s a little suspect that you arrived back, by a sort of loop, at the Cleanest Race position on the DPRK and its official ideology?
They’re trying to do their part 💀
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