I figured since their admin has asked them to stop participating over here it may be worthwhile to get a new discussion going that is primarily blahaj. I’m almost certain they’ll still be upvoting so keep that in mind as that may skew things. Worthwhile to check in from instances that have already defederated them. The previous thread definitely left a bad taste in my mouth but what do y’all think?
Old thread can be found here
EDIT: With regards to the post on new federation guidelines here: https://hexbear.net/post/352119
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Every instance that has talked shit and got dogpiled should be thanking us for breathing some life into their dead and boring ass websites.
Also the “No war but class war” part means they don’t actually support LGBTQ+ people when the chips are down. They will absolutely throw “identity politics” under the bus if it benefits them to do so.
Yeah I’ve already seen one refer to culture war and identity politics as something to abandon in favor of class war as something that “Dems need to do” so I’d say it’s not even a stretch just them needing to receive enough push to say the quiet part out loud.
Of course now that I’m trying to find the comment I’m referencing it looks like it’s been removed as I’ve checked my alts and can’t seem to find it.
Hell I can’t even find the post though that’s not surprising as it was (I think) a US news story in one of the World News communities about a pro LGBTQ+ teacher being forced to flee their state or something.
I’m a leftist. Not a Leninist or hexxbear or whatever. I am very for supporting everyone generally. Lgbtqia+mnop absolutely as well. But I think point of the phrase despite them being horrible at articulating it. If you look at the people spreading culture War, sparking the reflexive response of identity politics in return. They are typically members of wealthy powerful classes. Or the rubes they manipulate. By castrating said classes or even abolishing them. We could largely crash culture wars and the perceived need for identity politics in return. That shouldn’t mean we stop supporting the people who need it however.
The people funding and pushing the culture War want their minions to be attacked with identity politics in return. It polarizes and separates both groups. And keeps them from realizing their common interests. Such as abolishing the ownership and Leisure Class. Re-investing in society and average everyday working people.
The question is how do we respond? We cannot abandon those being attacked. But we’d be more successful if we found a way not to alienate those whose Minds have been poisoned by the culture War bullshit. Unfortunately trying to reason with a culture warbot is like trying to squeeze IQ points from a turnip. You’d be more likely to get blood. It’s honestly just easier to argue with them and increase the Divide.