• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    The right loves anti-electoralism on the left, it means that they have less of a fight from the left.

    Can you imagine how bad things would be if people didn’t vote if they felt like they were picking between the lesser of 2 evils?

    This nation would look a whole hell of a lot like modern Florida with it’s politics because Republicans in general turn out way more often than anyone else to vote.

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      1 year ago

      Then why have things been getting so much worse over the past 50 years even with plenty of blue boys and gals getting put in office?

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        1 year ago

        Ummm because nuance is a thing that exists. Global conditions, etc. I mean the guy in power during the pandemic saying we should inject bleach or nuke incoming hurricanes sure as shit helped things be worse.

      • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        What about the good that has happened?

        Do you think gay marriage would have been protected?

        Access to birth control secured?

        Anti-sodomy laws getting struck down?

        The Affordable Care Act passing?

        Disability rights?

        Do you think any of those things would have happened if Republicans been able to seize power and hold it unopposed over the last 50 years? No. None of those things would have happened. Those things happened because people further left than them got elected, the lesser of 2 evils won some elections.

        Don’t let perfect be the enemy of better.

        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]@hexbear.net
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          disability rights were fought for by disabled people, not fucking democrats. Gay people rioted to get their rights.

          and do you actually think contraceptives are secured?

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            1 year ago

            Do you think any of those things would have passed in a country where people didn’t vote?

            And all those rights secured by supreme court rulings are sitting on shaky ground, why? Republicans stacking the courts.

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        1 year ago

        Because Republicans? We’ve not had plenty of blues elected. We’ve seen abysmal showings from the left and republicans being elected across the nation who are setting out to destroy people’s rights.

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      The crux of the issue is, where you see a democracy that is keeping fascism at bay, we see through the illusion of choice that keeps allowing the slow steady march towards fascism.

      It’s a ratchet. Gop moves everything rightward (including the Dems) and the Dems refuse to push left in the name of “bipartisanship”. Then conditions get worse (because the policy is further right than before), Dems eventually lose because they allow gridlock and the ratchet suddenly frees up and cranks to the right again.

      • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        And how much worse would it be right now if Dems never won elections due to people saying “this dem isn’t far enough left therefore I won’t vote”?

        How far right would things have flown?

        Voting for the lesser of 2 evils reduces harm now. And when the lesser of 2 evils isn’t pushed that things are allowed to shift further to shit.