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      I think my largest issue was that they argued their point using a google-summary of an article. Thanks for linking the actual source.

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    I lived in a small town, and the cops were convinced that people were selling drugs at the Burger King.

    So they had one of the new cops go undercover there for three months, and all they managed to get was some idiots who had a gram of weed (in a medical state) and five vicodin pills. The judge threw it out and warned the town about wasting the court’s time.

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        He knew he had a lot bigger fish to fry than two kids who stole drugs from their grandmother to get their coworker to stop bothering them about it.

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          One of my favourite legal principles I don’t see applied enough “de minimis non curat lex”, “the law does not concern itself with trifles”.

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            From what I’ve seen, most judges are pretty straightforward with that shit. A couple are annoying about it, but it’s mostly the police force that pulls shit like that, and sometimes the prosecution as well.

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              Something about the police strikes me as odd. If a judge can stay uncorrupted by power, why cant police? Assuming that this is the reason for their actions.

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                The problem isn’t straight-out corruption.

                It’s wonky incentivation.

                Judges that are not measured by how many people they send to jail will always be, on average, less trigger-happy than cops who are.

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                Unfortunately judges can be corrupted too. They can accept bribes to rule favorably and their clerks can charge unsolicited fees to lose files or giving access to judicial decisions before they’re scheduled to release.

                Absolute power currupts absolutely.

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                a judge can stay uncorrupted by power

                funniest joke of all time in my countries they released terrorist to satisfy radical political parties

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      The strictest definition of entrapment is when an LEO orders you to do something illegal; because you have to obey an order. Like if a traffic cop waves you through the intersection against a light to clear the road, they cannot then issue you a ticket.

      It depends a lot on what the cops actually said to this kid, but I think there’s a good chance to make that case.

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      Sounds like it, but it’s Australia, and from what I know about Australian law, entrapment isn’t really a thing. Australian pigs can just tell you to commit a crime, and then arrest you for committing that crime.

      Just another reminder that All Cops Are Bastards.

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    Cross-posting my comment from the other thread here because people should watch this video:

    The only person at the senate inquiry into this that had any balls was Greens Senator David Shoebridge. Got his mic cut off for politely telling a cop to basically go fuck himself.

    This is why I always put the Greens first on my ballot, in both state & federal and for both upper & lower houses. They’re the only viable leftist party in Australia imo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbuFEl4M78

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    In the decision, Fleming found law enforcement used “the guise of a rehabilitation service to entice the parents of a troubled child to engage in a process that resulted in potential harm to the child.”

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    This type of cops would throw in a bag of hard drugs in someone’s car because they know the perp is using, but they can’t find the hiding place.

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      They should go to jail. My personal opinion is that breaking the law as someone under an oath (law enforcement, judge, lawyer) should always face twice the punishment. Once for the actual crime and once for the audacity to do so as a trusted hand of the law and corrupting public trust.

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    Sadly, this isn’t unusual. Sidenote: the movie The Day Shall Come is an excellent dark comedy based on this type of operation.

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    Biblical old testament levels of it’s a SIN if you can’t resist all temptation.

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    Why does a lot of anglo-saxon forces seems to not know what it means to investigate terrorism. Like they have the same problem with their FBI in Burgerland

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    A lot of autistic people are easy targets for informants and undercover officers. We saw this with the boogaloo movement. It’s a bunch of informants who are blatantly exploiting the fact that autistic people are likely going to be vulnerable to people offering them a sense of acceptance and have trouble seeing through a setup.

    The 2021 gun rights rally at the Ohio capitol was a perfect example of this. It was around two weeks after J6 and there was a supposed national gun rights rally that was supposed to happen at state capitols. It got called out by gun rights influencers who warned everyone that it was a setup because there was no organizer behind it and it was likely an attempt to either make gun owners into felons or smear them in some way.

    There was a group of boogaloo boys who showed up and their leader had signs of autism. He showed no awareness and tried getting seen with a transwoman at the event.

    They also showed up to the George Floyd protests and tried to hijack the protests to promote the boogaloo movement.

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      Welp, the effect of the insane american political system and the right to own murder weapons isnt gonna help autistic individuals at all.

      He showed no awareness and tried getting seen with a transwoman at the event.

      I dont know why this would be relevant.

      I had to google this movement. Autistics can lack logical thinking as well, sadly.