Just a topic to chat about.

  • argv_minus_one@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    There’s no way for no one to have power over anyone without someone violently seizing power. That’s why people have power over other people in the first place, and I’m not aware of any satisfactory solution.

    • zagaberoo@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      This is the question I have never heard an answer to and I can’t understand how one can support the concept of anarchy while it is unresolved. How does anarchy not inherently devolve into feudalism?

      Violent siezure of power isn’t even the only mode of breakdown. People’s needs and circumstances vary. People in need will turn to those with incidental power and, poof, you have lords again.

      The whole thing smells of meritocracy or world peace. The idea of a perfectly level playing field is utopian.

      • Didros@beehaw.org
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        1 year ago

        I feel the answer to this is education.

        We have never seen what a society could be like if we educated differently and people talk like the way people act can not be modified by education.

        America’s current education system was largely developed alongside the industrial revolution and catters to the needs of a large population doing the same thing on an assembly line for long hours with little breaks. In other countries children are not taught to ask permission to go to the bathroom. People could be taught about their labor movements and the sins of their past. We choose not to change and advance everyday.

        Imagine a populace that should anyone attempt to seize power, they would have few follows and face very strong opposition from the start? I feel education is the answer to this.

        • AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org
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          1 year ago

          More than education it’s also organization. Like how everyone in the Fediverse organized to agree to shut Meta out of the Fediverse recently. Unions and federations are how we prevent it. Alongside the education to be wary and recognize the dangers when they appear.

      • AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org
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        1 year ago

        Anarchism is not simply the lack of rules / rulers. Anarchists believe in tearing down vertical power structures (hierarchies) and replacing them with horizontal egalitarian structures. We believe that society should structure along the lines of small unions of workers and neighbors and artists and whatever who gather freely to advocate for their own needs and desires and to coordinate efforts. These unions or communes if you’d prefer, would federate alongside other unions/communes to create a federation that works together to meet the needs of all. Should that federation stop meeting the needs of all or should new needs arise then the unions can defederate and federate with others.

        This serves two purposes. 1.) It prevents these federations from becoming new governments (you can leave at any time) and 2.) It provides a system of organization that allows smaller groups to stand up to threats.

        For a real life example that we are all familiar with. There exists this Anarchist “nation” called The Fediverse and recently a war lord by the name of Meta who attempted to infiltrate the federation of the Fediverse and the people recognized that this would upset the balance of our new egalitarian way of life. So all of the largest unions (servers) of the Fediverse organized and formed a new coalition to unite against Meta and prevent them from gaining control and shut them out of the process entirely. Thus they were able to protect the Fediverse and keep it going.

        That’s how Anarchism will protect itself from outside influence.