Medics have now said that an Israeli airstrike in Khan Younis in southern Gaza killed 23 people, bringing total Palestinian fatalities overnight to more than 100, Reuters reports.
Medics have now said that an Israeli airstrike in Khan Younis in southern Gaza killed 23 people, bringing total Palestinian fatalities overnight to more than 100, Reuters reports.
I’m probably one of those people. The threshold between legitimate and illegitimate war won’t be resolved until after the conflict, since the fog of war guarantees we have no way of knowing the full true picture of why these civilians are dying. You may have biases that make it easier for you to make that decision yourself, but no real knowledge is gained that way.
This is not about numbers, it’s about the end goal. About what a victory of each side would look like. So I’m still (rather blindly, admittedly, but that’s how it is for you as well) on the side of the more modern and liberal civilization that did not start the war.
Meanwhile, the war that spunned the Gaza war in addition to a whole lot more bullshit around the world, i.e. Russia’s unprovoked attack on Ukraine is still raging on. And it’s not looking good right now for the civilized world. Given how it’s much more important a war, and given how Palestine has chosen to support the wrong side of it, it’s easier to support Israel in Gaza.
Let me clear this one up for you, they’re dying because Israel is killing them.
Nope.
Are they civilians or Hamas fighters?
If they are civilians, are they being used as human shields?
Is Hamas killing them and reporting them as killed by IDF?
Are the figures correct?
Not clear at all, as you can see.
No, this is created obfuscation in an attempt to justify what’s happening. Ask yourself, if Isreal wasn’t continuing this onslaught, would these people be dying? That’s the clarity.
If Hamas hadn’t attacked on Oct 7, would these people have died? No, they wouldn’t.
If Hamas surrendered, would these people continue to die? No, they wouldn’t.
If Israel hadn’t blockaded Gaza for a decade and a half, or occupied Palestine for 75 years, or or or. We can play this game for eternity, or look at the reality that people, actual people not abstract arguments, are dying. And that needs to stop.
I agree on that. What I don’t understand is why it’s considered more Israel’s than Hamas’s responsibility to stop the war.
Because Israel is the occupying force with a full military and international backing currently bombing a captive population compromised mostly of children. Why is that hard to understand?
They are there to fight against a terrorist group who attack them on a constant basis, and they would stop their war immediately if said terrorist group surrendered. Population mostly comprised of children is not their fault, it has come about from one of the highest birth rates in the world. Israel is the occupying force in very much the same way as Allies were an occupying force in Germany in 1945. They are occupying the area to destroy an extremely harmful entity.
Are these things also hard to understand?