• aidan@lemmy.worldM
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    1 year ago

    What do I misunderstand about the point of education? Also you’re just insulting again.

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      1 year ago

      I was going to give you a real answer but I took a little trip through your history and I think I understand what you’re saying now, this conversation is over.

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            Well I am slightly of two minds about it. Looking in their post history it looks like they posted a selfie and appeared to be quite young. I think kids are allowed to be ignorant and wrong for a little while. Oftentimes they’re little more than blank slates parroting what their parents or relatives indoctrinated them into. Only actually learning what things really are once they start becoming more independent and experiencing for themselves. I have some hope that this one with some experience and maturity might come to learn. But I definitely don’t blame people for not watching to be free life coaches to the unwilling. But yes when they’re over 30 and still acting like that usually then there’s little hope for them.

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              well I’m glad some people still try. either way, I just discovered this kid mods this community, so i’m out. I didn’t leave reddit to go to another politics community run by people who support traitors.

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                And that’s still a child. And your overall attitude really shows it. If you were 30 years old that would be an insult. But you’re still at the age where it’s somewhat understandable.

                You’re not wrong that public education failed you. But you are wrong the charter schools etc would do better. Everywhere else in the world even in the places that do better than us, they use public schools. Because they work. The problem with our public schools. Is that a number of groups. Judging from your opinions many of whom you would side with have worked hard to sabotage our schools over the last half century or more. Make a commitment to never stop learning. And to never stop questioning what you think you know. As someone well over double your age it is some of the best life advice I could give to anyone.

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                  How could I act that’s not childish? What specifically must I change to not act like a child?

                  But you are wrong the charter schools etc would do better.

                  I think it’s possible that some would. I agree it’s hard to nail down the incentives for charter schools but I do think there is room for competition and choice in the space.

                  Everywhere else in the world even in the places that do better than us, they use public schools. Because they work. The problem with our public schools. Is that a number of groups. Judging from your opinions many of whom you would side with have worked hard to sabotage our schools over the last half century or more.

                  I live outside the US. The public schools here are not good, nor are the private. They are effective for some students, but they are not empathetic. Also, public schools do not work in many places, such as the most populace country.

                  Make a commitment to never stop learning.

                  I’m not opposed to learning. After all, if you’ve seen my profile I posted a ton of microbiology resources I’ve been reading/watching lately. I want to learn what is valuable to me, in a way effective for me. The internet provides a much better vehicle for that than mandatory schooling for me- and I’m sure many others.

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                    I think it’s possible that some would

                    I’m sure you do. But the problem is it’s not about thinking. It’s about knowing. I’m sure there are some who would benefit from having unlimited budget and personal attention. But at what cost to everyone else? There’s one question which instantly dismantles charter advocates arguments. That they cannot and will never be able to answer. Charter schools get to choose their students. Public schools cannot. Therefore the data from both will never be directly comparable. How do you normalize the data to be able to have any meaningful informative comparison? The greatest minds out there still haven’t been able to do it to date. Also it’s important to note that many other countries with better educational outcomes also have public school systems. Which strongly points to public schools not being the problem directly. More likely the curriculum and cuts that have been forced upon them.

                    I’m not opposed to learning. After all, if you’ve seen my profile I posted a ton of microbiology resources I’ve been reading/watching lately.

                    That’s great. But I also remember seeing a hot take on the Microsoft FTC events as well. And let me just say, as someone who’s been a Blizzard customer for 30 years and a gamer for almost 40. These acquisitions and consolidations have always been a bad thing long term.

                    The ultimate key to education and wisdom. Is to learn how little you actually know. Then building up the critical thinking skills to identify who the experts are, and where to find the information should you need it. And that is unfortunately something that’s never been harder these days. All our media is incomplete coverage if not outright indoctrination and propaganda.

                    The PBS videos on YouTube are pretty decent though. Journey to the Microcosmos, Eons, Space Time, Monstrum, Storied, and Other Words are all great. And are actually a really good argument not only for public education, but expanding it as well.