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    Israel military says 2 civilians killed for every Hamas militant is a ‘tremendously positive’ ratio given combat challenges

    IDF terrorists just claim every civilian male they kill is Hamas.

    Ironically Hamas’s civilian casualty rate on Oct 7 is actually close to 2/3 which indicates their attacks were actually very targeted towards military targets.

    Unlike Israel which has an actual estimated 99/100 civilian casualty rate.

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      That doesn’t prove they target civilians, it just proves they are okay with collateral damage. The above is a claim about intent.

      IDF terrorists just claim every civilian male they kill is Hamas.

      Meanwhile Hamas just murders men, women, and children and doesn’t even pretend they are trying to hit military targets, blindly firing rockets or sending out violent hordes.

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        Actually only 29 children died on Oct7 of all the 1200 dead. Including Israeli friendly fire on the Kibbutzes. This shows Hamas did their best to avoid killing children.

        There is not a single video from the Hamas gopros of Hamas shooting children. There are plenty of gopro videos of Hamas shooting the dad but sparing children.

        In sheer numbers Hamas has done like 40 times better to avoid killing children than israel which knowingly bombs entire refugee camps full of little kids.

        I’m not gonna pretend they’re angels but their moral compass is far better than the IDF’s which indiscriminately murders children.

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          In sheer numbers Hamas has done like 40 times better to avoid killing children than israel which knowingly bombs entire refugee camps full of little kids.

          It’s easier to make the case deaths of children are collateral damage with targeted bombs against military targets than with guns used against unarmed civilians at close range, or blindly fired rockets.

          Actually only 29 children died on Oct7 of all the 1200 dead. Including Israeli friendly fire on the Kibbutzes. This shows Hamas did their best to avoid killing children. … There is not a single video from the Hamas gopros of Hamas shooting children. There are plenty of gopro videos of Hamas shooting the dad but sparing children.

          Perhaps. It’s unsurprising that Hamas wouldn’t release propaganda of such things. I watched a lot of the horrible footage from that day, it certainly didn’t give me the impression that they were showing restraint.

          I’m not gonna pretend they’re angels but their moral compass is far better than the IDF’s which indiscriminately murders children.

          Then your moral compass evidently does not distinguish intent from effectiveness. There’s a lot more to it than body count, like who started this conflict, who provoked the latest escalation, and who the intended targets are. I blame Hamas for these deaths by provoking a predictable attack from a superior foe while hiding among Gazan children, I don’t blame Israel for using strategies that minimize their own losses even if it means more collateral damage in a nation they are at war with.

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            Yeah it’s really hard to not make civilian casualties when you throw a JDAM on a refugee camp. If only they could count the amount of children they’re gonna kill in advance from their Reaper drone and throw it right in the middle of them. Surely they wouldn’t kill all those kids if they knew they existed. That would make the IDF genocidal terrorists!

            Your claim about rifles is true. The coward IDF should dare to go in with rifles and risk their lives like Hamas did on oct7. But the IDF would rather kill a hundred thousand babies than risk their own lives. They have barely entered Gaza and are just bombing it down with airplanes.

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              Some anonymous sources in articles I’ve read say there is an acceptable number of acceptable civilian casualties per Hamas target that is set by IDF, and this figure went up significantly after the last attack on Israel.

              Surely they wouldn’t kill all those kids if they knew they existed. That would make the IDF genocidal terrorists!

              Killing of children as collateral damage is terrible, but it does not a genocide make.

              The coward IDF should dare to go in with rifles and risk their lives like Hamas did on oct7.

              That sounds like a terrible strategy that would only serve to help their opponents, for the purpose of what, risking their lives to not be, “cowards,” in your eyes? If Hamas had air strike capabilities I suspect they would use them on civilians with no hesitation and far less restraint. Their stated goal is genocide, after all, while Israel vehemently denies that they are committing one or intend to commit one.

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                  Did you watch that video? It says that an 8-year-old was killed in a shootout with militants during a raid. Not exactly the same as, “intentionally shooting and killing little children.” Collateral damage. Why are you misrepresenting this clip?

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                    An 8 year old was killed as the IDF drove away and shot unarmed kids. There was no “shoot out” taking place.