• Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    I thought NATO boys said Palestinian violence towards off-duty militants and non-militants was wrong?

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    7 months ago

    “Dude, what an amazing idea, cut throats during the night, I’m sure NO ONE ever thought about that EVER. Surely the Russians all sleep in one tent with zero protection”

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    7 months ago

    Down voted by 7 libs who will tell you all about how anti terrorism they are… Until its white people on their side doing it.

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    This is stupid, of course you’re going to plan to hit military targets in Russian controlled territories. That is the area they are trying to get back. The U.S. and allies have been advising Ukraine from the early days of the invasion… Famously, they recommended leaving Bakhmut but Ukraine is it’s own country and didn’t leave.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      The only thing that’s stupid is that the west keeps pretending that it’s not a party to the conflict. It’s pretty clear that the west very much is directly involved in the conflict, which makes Ukraine a western proxy.

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        7 months ago

        Yes, countries are providing weapons and aid to an illegally invaded country. No one is hiding this. Your point?

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          According to the logic applies by the west in past conflicts, Russias SMO isn’t illegal. According the Un it is, but so are literally all western wars since WW2.

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            In fact, it’s directly modelled on what NATO did to Yugoslavia where they recognized breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO to help. Russia is just following the standard set by the rules based world order here.

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            I’m against invading any nation and protested it many times (including the U.S.)… Can you say the same? SMO is just an invasion by a different name.

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          Westerners are the last people on Earth who get to talk about illegally invaded countries. And yes western fucktard politicians have been claiming that the west is not at war with Russia over and over. You dumb fucks are in fact trying to hide this with the same grace and eloquence a dog tries to hide having shat on the carpet.

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            The U.S. is not at war with Russia, we are supporting Ukraine that is at war with Russia. Is North Korea at war with Ukraine because it’s supplying weapons to the Russians? I’m against invading any nation and I protested it many times (including the U.S.)… Can you say the same?

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              The problem with your argument is that it ignores the reality that the west overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in a violent coup. This something that’s been extensively documented even in western media.

              The nationalist regime that west installed has been doing ethnic cleansing against the people of Donbas. Again, this is something, that’s well documented and has been reported on by western media. Here’s a clip from CNN you might want to watch https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

              Unsurprisingly, people of Donbas did not wish to be part of an ethnostate that is trying to eradicate them. This is how the civil war in Ukraine started in 2014. In 2022, LPR and DPR republics declared independence and appealed to Russia for help. Incidentally, this is precisely what happened during the breakup of Yugoslavia when Kosovo appealed to NATO for help.

              We can also take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:

              here’s how the election in 2004 went:

              this is the 2010 election:

              As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:

              So, question of you is whether you support ethnic cleansing of the Russian speaking population in Donbas and feel that is should have been allowed to continue?

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                As usual, they get scared off when they’re reminded that history didn’t begin in February 2022.

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                  According to liberal world view, history is just a series of discrete and independent events that just happen randomly for no discernible reason.

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                  This happens almost every time lol their entire argument and premise is “Russia invasion”, yet seem strangely quiet when you ask them why Russia intervened

                  They never mention the Minsk Agreements, they don’t mention the coup in 2014, they zero in on the “Russia invaded” line which is why they don’t focus on anything else

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              So you’re against Ukraine invading itself, right? Against the Russian speaking population of Ukraine?

              Just seeing if you’re actually paying attention or if you just get your news from Western sources like other libs.