• SCB@lemmy.world
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      That is literal terrorism by literal terrorist groups, yes.

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          How can people actively defend terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah? Absolutely crazy.

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              Their openly, officially stated goal, of the destruction of Israel. It was in their constitution until recently. They specifically launch rockets into civilian area to kill as many civilians as possible.

              Saying “who says they are terrorists?” when their own statements say so… Yeah.

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                cool israel elected official, members of the israeli parliament called for the “glassing of gaza”. idf drops bombs everywhere in gaza, something like a glassing of some sort. so they are fighting a terrorist state. this is a fact. are you going to call terrorists those who take arms against a terrorist state? how does that work?

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            What’s crazy is people who think any criticism of Israel is support for Hamas and/or antisemitism. That objection doesn’t hold up under even the slightest scrutiny, yet we have people like you repeating it again and again. It’s like claiming critics of the death penalty believe murder should be without repercussions. It’s nonsensical and l, appropriately enough, I have yet to meet a single supporter of such an opinion who can provide any sort of explanation of how it makes sense.

            Do you just repeat what the government tells you without ever questioning it?

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          Your personal beliefs can be anything. But according to how these terms are actually used in the real world (and not “kinda similar online pedantry”) it is not the same at all.

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            lol. just because a large number of people believes something doesn’t make it true.

            that is the beauty of truth, it endures in solitude until the lies have no more souls to eat. in the end it will shine bright and cast the light on fact that israel is a terrorist state. so you are like the slavery supporters.

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                The lie is that Israel is any different or morally superior than the terrorists they decry. It’s a genocidal apartheid state and no amount of apologists spreading lies to the contrary will change that.

                As has been done for decades, Israeli settlers invaders are using the ongoing fighting to justify forcibly removing Palestinians so they can take their things and live in their homes. They’re doing to them many of the same things that were done to the Jewish people by the Nazis and we actually have people trying to claim they’re in the right. It’s disgusting.

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        Giant LOL here.

        Hamas uses terror to get what they want: that’s terrorism because it’s a terrorist group!

        Israeli government uses terror to get what they want: that’s not terrorism because it’s a government, not a terrorist group!

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          Hamas is running a government too, so I guess they’re not either. Problem solved everyone, Israel can go home now.

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        Why were Israel sponsoring Hamas, a terrorist group, to displace the moderate PLO-aligned orgs then?

        Irredeemable stupidity?

        Antisemitism?

        Manufacturing a pretext for the genocide they’re now committing, perhaps?

        We’ve established elsewhere that Israel meets the UN definition of terrorism.

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          Irredeemable stupidity?

          As always, when something truly terrible happens, it’s this.

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            While genocide does require intense stupidity, decades-long escalation toward genocide when you’re dependent on US support requires a pretext before you can escalate. There’s elements of all of the above - busy mostly the pretext.