• AnonTwo@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Pretty sure it just means you’re allowed to say it without being jailed.

    But if it actually happens it could certainly be used against you.

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      11 months ago

      It means he’s free to say what he wants about the election, but that protection stops when attempting to use the instruments of government

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Exactly. Freedom of speech* means you are free to speak something.

      Not free of the consequences of the effects of what you are saying. It also means you are not free of social consequences of your speech (i.e.: people not listening, walking away, ignoring you, shunning you). You’re also not free to speak in a private context, as the First Amendment only pertains to the state, not individuals and their private property. Meaning a social media platform is free to ban you for whatever view you are stating.

      Freedom of speech, not from consequence.

      *: With limitations in regards to genuinely illegal things, such as denying the holocaust as a citizen of Germany.

    • catshit_dogfart@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Yeah by this reasoning no kind of crime that involves speech is actionable.

      Yes, you can say things that are illegal, there are combinations of words that are criminal to speak. Like, I could tell you some of the classified system vulnerabilities I know about at work - but that would be really really illegal. That is not protected by free speech. All kinds of things are illegal to say.

      This defense suggests that to not be the case.