It’s so frustrating trying to talk to Americans about foreign policy. Most recently, we have all these stories about China stopping western warplanes from entering Chinese territory being spun as Chinese aggression. As if flying armed jets less than 100 miles off the coast of a country you threaten on a near-daily basis isn’t threatening them. No one even questions why these jets are flying so near Chinese airspace. What business does a Canadian jet have off the coast of China, other than to threaten and intimidate? I mean, the most recent one was literally on a mission to intimidate North Korea. Fucking frustrating.

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    you can’t intimidate china, they are provoking it trying to get them to fire first and pose as victims of the “evil warmongering yellow man”

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      They had a reporter crew with them. I genuinely think in this case they would have liked China to fire so they could have spun their deaths and the whole incident as especially bad. Well that and having those bourgeois bootlicking propagandists on-board allows them to point to them as ‘independent’ sources that they were doing no wrong.

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      Neither.

      They are checking response time and tactics. This is the same reason Russia flies jets off of the coast of Scotland and Alaska.

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    yeah, talking about foreign policy is annoying indeed when the other thinks they can do whatever they want because allegedly god gave them the right to do so.

    guess what? u fucking can’t.

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    The media does most of the heavy lifting. You won’t see Fox or CNN say Russia should win, they won’t say Palestine should win, so everyone just follows what their only news sources (not literally, but anything beyond those is conspiracies to them) parrot to them back from US state propaganda

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    When I was 10 years old other kids in my class talked about dropping nukes on the Middle East to just get rid of them. Absolute hellscape

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      Wow, that’s great. Matches my sense as a white American man that people I know and grew up with enthusiastically consumed racist ways of thinking offered to them.

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      I could only read the intro, but I appreciate what I read so far. Brainwashing definitely was a western invention, to attempt to cope with the defection rate in Korea, to my understanding. Which led directly to MK Ultra and other horrific experiments on unwilling and unknowing citizens.

      I’ll check the rest out after work, thanks for sharing!

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        IIRC Korean “brainwashing” was mostly just a false propaganda story and alibi for the experiments they were already intending to continue taking inspiration from Unit 731 and the Nazis.

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    We single-handedly won WWII, and we saved the world from communism with our $tar War, and we continue to spread peace & democracy & humanitarian aid & a rules-based order with our freedom bombs and debt traps. You’re welcome; no need to thank us, you thankless shithole countries.

    That’s what people think here, and it’s exhausting.

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    It is the incapability of putting yourself in other shoes, i.e. solidarity.

    They either can’t comprehend that flying bombers directly into a territory and turning back at the last possible moment is provocation, or they know its provocation but they just argue in bad faith.

    Btw they do this every single year against the DPRK, but they’re the crazy warmongers!

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      To be fair it is difficult to put yourself in other shoes when they are being thrown at your face because of all the war crimes you did