• tsz@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Perhaps Israel shouldn’t have put so much effort into ensuring Palestinians didn’t have access to education and other basic human rights. I’m not into what Hamas is doing or what they’ve done really ever, but what were these rabbis doing while Palestine was being bulldozed for settlements? What, honestly, was the expected outcome? Decades of grinding them down wasnt making things more peaceful. I don’t get it. You cannot blame people for not being sympathetic to headlines like this. You just can’t.

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      9 months ago

      Hamas is founded on the principle that Jews should not exist. Yet you expect Israelis to invite the Palestinians over for coffee and hummus.

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        9 months ago

        Good job conflating Palestinians with Hamas. The only reason I might suspect it’s not intentional is that you did it with such a glaring lack of subtlety.

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          It’s their government, and multiple polls show that most Palestinians support Hamas, so it’s not conflation. It’s realism.

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        9 months ago

        I guess Israel shouldnt have backed Hamas in order create an Islamist opposition to the secular Fatah and PLO huh?

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        Zionist is founded on the principle that taking the whole Palestine as their own land. Yet you expect Palestinian to invite Zionists over for coffee and hummus.

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          I think its “Israeli state shouldnt exist” not “Jews shouldnt exist”.

          Jews were living in most Arab countries including Palastine well before the establishment of Israeli state.

          Edit: In fact Jews do live in Iran until this day

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                Palestine is not Hamas.

                Hamas is the governing party of Palestine. Palestine is Hamas in the same way Russia is the Putin administration. Certainly that can change in the future, but right now, Hamas is running the government of Palestine.

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                  Hamas is the governing party of Palestine.

                  No it’s not. You are confusing Palestine with Gaza, Gaza is a small part of Palestine.

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                    Sorry, I should have said: Hamas is the governing party of Palestine in the Gaza Strip, there is no government above them as Hamas is the government of that portion of Palestine. That entire region of Palestine is Hamas in the same way Russia is the Putin administration.

                    Hamas … is a Sunni Islamist political and military organization that is the de facto government of Palestine in the Gaza Strip

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

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                  So Israel is Natanyaho then? These are all awful governing bodies but they don’t represent their people in my opinion.

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                    9 months ago

                    Russia never invaded Ukraine, it was just the Putin administration who invaded Ukraine.

                    -Said by no one ever

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              9 months ago

              They arrested many “American Jews” in NY in last few days for protesting genocide against Palestinians in their name. No media is reporting on it.

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        No it isn’t. Hamas was founded on the dissolution of Israel but they have no interest in killing Jewish people world wide. They’re not even necessarily interested in killing Jewish people in Israel. They just want the land back.

        The charter does use the word “Jewish” but scholars agree it is interpreted to mean the land and not the peoples

        And the second charter is in favor of a two state solution