Politics is downstream from culture, as Andrew Breitbart once said.

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    Keep in mind this works both ways. The progressive outrage machine is arguably even more active than the conservative machine. Look at the reaction to Sound of Freedom. An extremely neutral movie when you consider the politics of its content. But the main actor is a conspiracy theorist, so I guess that means the movie is a far right propaganda vehicle? By that logic most movies are far left propaganda vehicles.

    A similar phenomenon has always followed Trump around. Media gets insane hits for anti-Trump content. Some people built entire careers off of reporting on his tweets. The more shocking and exaggerated they could make the content, the more money came flooding in. That’s why so much of the coverage of Trump was sensationalized and uncharitable. It’s also why moderates couldn’t help but root for him. There’s only so much the established powers that be can lie about someone before you want to support him regardless of his character flaws. It helped that his policies were generally great, focusing on anti-war and populist market adjustments.

    This is why you should always take the news with a grain of salt. They’re all out to make money, and they all have agendas.

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      Wish I could give more than one upvote given that the balanced view you present is obviously controversial amongst a Reddit crowd.

      I think the other thing that maybe people need to remember is that there’s pretty much always someone further left than you, and there’s a good chance they consider you a conservative. There’s always another further out there idea, and in that way a lot of people who used to be lefties turned into conservatives simply by not picking up on the new thing. Then it’s guilt by association, instead of just being one tick less progressive, people end up getting tired with all of the worst brushes.

      Another thing that is a reality that isn’t going to make a lot of people happy is virtually every culture has conservatives of some kind. There are conservatives in africa, and in asia – there’s a lot of conservatives in Asia in fact. There’s conservatives amongst the Jews, there’s conservatives amongst the Indians and in the Middle East. And not all of that conservatism comes from one place.

      The world is a lot more complicated than people seem to think, and we’re starting to see that coming to fruition because not everyone who opposes Western liberal conservatism is a western liberal.

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        I think the other thing that maybe people need to remember is that there’s pretty much always someone further left than you, and there’s a good chance they consider you a conservative.

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        This could not be more true:

        I’m “liberal” and “progressive”. I’ve never voted for my countries “conservatives”, in fact I’ve voted for independants that many would call “far left” more than I’ve voted for our regular “left” recently. I voted YES in our referendum for gay marriage. I’m all for “gender identity” in adults if that’s what makes you happy.

        I do not, however, think children should be given “gender affirming care”, so that makes me a “bigot”, “far right”, a “nazi”, a “trumper”, and a “conservative” according to those too far gone on the left. If you won’t let a kid get a tattoo then you shouldn’t let a kid cut any perfectly good body parts off, or stunt their body and minds growth with “puberty blockers” aka chemical castration. If you won’t trust a kids opinion enough to let them vote, don’t let them make decisions that are life altering.

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      1 year ago

      Not to mention the “progressives” reaction to Matt Walsh’s movie “what is a woman?”

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        Matt Walsh’s movie “what is a woman

        I didn’t know who Matt Walsh was, but Googling him these tweets are the first things that popped up. I can see why people react badly to him.

        This is a good time to remember that feminism has killed far more people than the atomic bomb. It is perhaps the most destructive force in human history. Trans ideology, its off shoot, is competing for the title.

        I was already looking forward to watching Oppenheimer but then I saw a bunch of people on Twitter complaining that it mostly features white men and it isn’t inclusive enough and now I’m even more looking forward to watching it

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            “Just because there are two sides doesn’t mean they both have points worth listening to.”

            I’m well aware of what the right’s “side” is. It’s bigoted and out of date. Unless they suddenly start accepting people for who they are I don’t need to give them any more of my time or thoughts. That’s not being “dug in” or “stubborn”, it means I’m saying no to hating people and they need to change their stance if they want to get me to vote for them ever again.

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              Unless they suddenly start accepting people for who they are

              Ironic considering the people that won’t accept themselves for who they are.

              Adults can be trans all they want, call yourself whatever gender you want - just stop experimenting on children with surgeries and drugs.

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          You can think whatever you want about him, that’s not the point. The point was that the actual movie was basically him giving “experts” enough rope to hang themselves with, and hang themselves they did. It was about pointing out the absurdity of the situation, a situation where not even the people spouting the views could give answers.

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        Remember when Velma pissed everyone off equally and there was a brief moment of bipartisan unity? That was fun.