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GDPR gives people a fair amount of protection and it is enforced.
Not in my experience. I have filed complaints of ~20+ GDPR violations under article 77 going years back. Not a single one of them enforced to date. These cases just sit idle for years. The problem is the GDPR gives no recourse when DPAs fail to honor article 77 obligations. It’s toothless.
That shows a low count of cherry-picked enforcement actions. If you had a way to get a count of unenforced reports it would likely be an embarrassing comparison.
LOL, Reality is always missed by your types. Quote where I said it wasn’t enforced! Quote where I said companies aren’t subject to laws… Ya, didn’t think so.
Your stupidity begins and ends with not grasping how big business works, paying those fines are a cost of business for them. Companies have been violating laws knowing they’ll get in trouble LONG before GDPR was ever a thing, that’s not going to change. Neither will their income, the outgoing costs will just rise to cover it, and they feel nothing. Laws are a way to deal with something after it already happens, they don’t stop those said things from happening if that’s what companies are intent on doing.
Anyway, what I know is that if I buy a Fitbit I can decline to share my data and the seller cannot do anything about it, the only thing he can do is to not sell me the device in the first place: in that case I can simply buy another one from a different brand. No problem for me and a problem for Fitbit.
Its comical that you think its a “problem for Fitbit”. Also, that’s not “thanks to the GDPR”, as itn doesnt prevent data collection when you’ve consented to it, which the overwhelming majority of people happily do.
Its comical that you think its a “problem for Fitbit”
Well, if I don’t buy a Fitbit who has the problem ? Me that buy another brand device or Fitbit that don’t sell one device (and as consequence also loose the option to gather some data) ?
Also, that’s not “thanks to the GDPR”, as itn doesnt prevent data collection when you’ve consented to it, which the overwhelming majority of people happily do.
True. The point of the GDPR is allowing people to be able to decide who and when share their data without fearing something like “If I sell you something you are forced to give me your data”.
Look, there are only two options: 1) you sell me something knowning I can deny your data collection and 2) you don’t sell me anything from the start.
In the first case, you have a sell and maybe have my data, in the second you have nothing and I have sothing from someone else.
But let’s end here. I understand that we are not thinking the same. Nice discussion anyway.
Good for you.
But, you know, unlike what you seems to think, GDPR gives people a fair amount of protection and it is enforced.
And these “huge companies” are still subject to laws, at least in EU.
The real life begs to differ:
https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
Not in my experience. I have filed complaints of ~20+ GDPR violations under article 77 going years back. Not a single one of them enforced to date. These cases just sit idle for years. The problem is the GDPR gives no recourse when DPAs fail to honor article 77 obligations. It’s toothless.
That shows a low count of cherry-picked enforcement actions. If you had a way to get a count of unenforced reports it would likely be an embarrassing comparison.
LOL, Reality is always missed by your types. Quote where I said it wasn’t enforced! Quote where I said companies aren’t subject to laws… Ya, didn’t think so.
Your stupidity begins and ends with not grasping how big business works, paying those fines are a cost of business for them. Companies have been violating laws knowing they’ll get in trouble LONG before GDPR was ever a thing, that’s not going to change. Neither will their income, the outgoing costs will just rise to cover it, and they feel nothing. Laws are a way to deal with something after it already happens, they don’t stop those said things from happening if that’s what companies are intent on doing.
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Its comical that you think its a “problem for Fitbit”. Also, that’s not “thanks to the GDPR”, as itn doesnt prevent data collection when you’ve consented to it, which the overwhelming majority of people happily do.
Well, if I don’t buy a Fitbit who has the problem ? Me that buy another brand device or Fitbit that don’t sell one device (and as consequence also loose the option to gather some data) ?
True. The point of the GDPR is allowing people to be able to decide who and when share their data without fearing something like “If I sell you something you are forced to give me your data”.
Look, there are only two options: 1) you sell me something knowning I can deny your data collection and 2) you don’t sell me anything from the start.
In the first case, you have a sell and maybe have my data, in the second you have nothing and I have sothing from someone else.
But let’s end here. I understand that we are not thinking the same. Nice discussion anyway.