• Zwiebel@feddit.org
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    13 hours ago

    Thank you for your nuanced reply and your openness for semantics discussion.

    Provocative question: Do you think then that the US should’ve strangled half the German population instead of just a dozen at the Nuremberg Trials because a Nazi is a Nazi?

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      No, we strangled the ones in charge and then forced the remainder to literally pay while their country was occupied. A culture of anti-nazism was forced upon the Germans with law.

      Growth is important for everyone. MAGA can still bend the knee and atone for their bigotry.

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        No you did not follow the Morgentau Plan. Instead you gave Germany a bunch of money to rebuild under the Marshall Plan, and treated us quite kindly to lead us on the right path. (In contrast to the USSR which took revenge by letting their soldiers rape and loot, and disassembled German industries as repayment. The Soviets also tried to forcibly “denazify” Germany which was unsucsessful.)

        No, we strangled the ones in charge and then […]

        So we agree that there is a difference between Nazis of different caliber, and they’re to be treated differently.

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          they’re to be treated differently.

          What you’re conflating is being prosecuted for your war crimes. Holy bad faith.

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          Yeah, the whole crux of my statement was we offed the ones in charge and helped the other ones realize the ghastly error of their ways. By force if necessary, but money tends to work too.

          Unless you’re saying we shouldn’t have fought against Nazis?

          Genuinely confused how people can be defending Nazis in 2024 but… here we are I guess.

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            I’m not defending Nazis? I just disagree with the post, which I understood calls for people to dismiss nuance and engage a black and white view. Which smells like populism to me

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        God, I wish I could up vote this more than once. I want it smeared all over the front page of every website in America. I want everyone in the country to see the true feelings of leftists.

        They want you dead. They want you harmed. They LOVE violence against people that have different opinions. They salivate at the idea of camps (as long as it’s for people they don’t like).

        All they have to do is convince themselves that they are “Nazis”! Then, all bets are off. Just dehumanize anyone you don’t like, then you can wish death on them and their families. Fuck em, right? They deserve it!

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          I’m confised. Are you saying that strangling the leaders of the Nazi party was bad?

          Pretty sure I put in there that MAGA can atone for their terrible actions, not murder them but go off King.

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          Literally no call for violence. In fact specifically states it’s not too late to save the nutters.

          You on the other hand seem upset that people hate Nazis. And before you start whining a lot of you are actual Nazis.

          So there’s your real left vs right. Chance to be fixed Vs QQ people are mean to Nazis.

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          THEY are poisoning the blood of the country! THEY are eating the pets in Springfield! THEY are corrupting our children!

          I heat a lot about THEY.

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      Why did the debatelolds decide they were welcome here, instead of samethingawful 15 years ago where they belong?