• unphazed@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Trump’s tracking: Golf, golf, McDs, court, golf, golf, court, Mcds, McDs, McDs, golf…

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      The article said that they track the movements of bodyguards. I doubt Trump or Biden use anything remotely related to fitness. Obama might have.

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        I have a sports watch and the corresponding fitness app. I can confirm. “Sitting on one’s ass at the restaurant” is not a fitness activity. HOWEVER. Some of my activities (e.g. walks) do terminate near fast food jonts. …I dread what that kind of data analysis would yield on a major political figure.

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    What is this “fitness” they speak of? It seems to be from overseas. Could someone explain this to an American like me?

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    21 hours ago

    Politicians when they realize the commercialized espionage they’ve allowed also applies to them:

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    I am less surprised that the information is out there than I am that the bodyguards of such people are allowed to either bring along their personal devices or install random crap from the public app stores on their work devices.

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    What! There’s no way Trump uses Strava.

    reads article

    Oh, the bodyguards… that makes sense and is kinda smart to investigate.

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        Why would they let bodyguards use tracking apps? Are we really that bad at opsec?

        Wrong question LOL. Better ask:

        Are we really that bad at allowing tracking?

        Yes you are. And once the data is collected, people are going to do things with the data.

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          It goes both ways. Companies are able to track way more data than they should be able to and users are bad at avoiding or even being aware of it, including many who should have security concerns at the top of their mind.

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        Trump is such an incompetent clown that he has a comedian thrash on US citizens in a US territory as a bigoted racist warm up act for his rallies. What do you think.

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          Trump is not responsible for his security though, secret service is. Would think that those guys would know to not wear random trackers with them

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              Maybe, having worked closely enough with Trump to have an even better idea of who he is than most, it was a choice rather than incompetence.

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            I’m not sure if it’s still valid, but there was that whole debacle where he fired every secret service agent except for ones that backed him politically.

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            Pretty sure the secret service is responsible for protecting Trump. The rest of his campaign security is the job of the campaign, which is famously cheap.

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            You think the rest of the world doesn’t follow the news when a lunatic is in the run with an actual chance of getting elected?
            Turns out we have journalists, in France!

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        The article noted that the agents can’t use their personal devices while on duty but of course they can while they are off duty. It mentioned that one of the guards took a jog while off duty, but that jog was from the hotel the President was staying at.

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          Still the agents mistake.

          They could set the start/finish area to be masked, they could set their run info as private, they could have just the run stats (but no GPS) shared, etc.

          This isn’t a strava issue, just Secret Service Agents being bad about Secrets when doing their Service.

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            They should definitely know better, especially as a few years ago it was in the news how you could map some US bases by the runs that soldiers were doing

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      Hmm, so he’s not a fitness buff… Maybe we could track him by looking at state library databases and seeing when and where he has most recently checked out library books??

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    I still don’t get why Strava activities are public by default and why they do not make their users aware of it. I remember having to rummage through the settings to make activities private by default.

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    I find this to be a breakdown of training, because the training was pretty clear years ago when I had clearance with the navy that we were never to use apps like this that could disclose location, not just while on-duty or on base, but at any time that our location could be given away. We were specifically not allowed to have Fitbits or other smart watches (Fitbit was the big one at the time) that could share location and any apps that wanted to know our location (yes, on our personal phones) needed to be cleared by IT because we were people that had been granted clearance and therefore could not give away critical location information.

    The big scandal that got a lot of people into trouble was Pokemon Go, because not only did it use location, but I guess it used camera too? I didn’t know, I didn’t play it, but using cameras on base was a HUGE no-no, so using an app that shared location AND picture during your lunch break broke the brains of the COs.

    It seems so weird to me that this is something that is so widespread right now. I didn’t work for the navy anymore and haven’t in a while, but I still follow the basic safety protocols about not sharing sensitive information.

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      Secret service leta them use normie phones loaded with normie apps?

      No. At least not while they were on duty.

      But they used their device while off-duty, but at the same hotel they were at.

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    You’d think the secret service were better at opsec than random soldiers getting their helicopters blown up.

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      I’ve intuited, maybe correctly, the service has become changed over the years and is not what it once was. Stuff like this makes me think that maybe my armchair analysis is correct

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        Considering Trump almost got his head blown off because they let a guy sit on a roof with a rifle at a political rally for 5 minutes… that’s not a stretch.

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        And hopefully does something about. Disciplinary for the poor OPSEC and/or better resources to avoid it and/or better laws to stop this unfettered data collection and/or better training to avoid it in the future. Here’s hoping. Holds breath