Nah, I listen to my breadtube on 11. Its a public space, and if you don’t like what I’m listening to I would love to have a discussion about it.
Yes, It IS a public space. It’s not just YOUR space.
you owe all of us a lot of tax money that went into making that space meant for everyone. Not just you alone.
There’s your discussion as far as anyone doesn’t owe you one.
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At least your sink hole can be blocked online easier these days.
I thought it was only specific to populated shithole like mine
Literally my school bus, there’s like 50 students inside at any given time, more than half of them blast tiktoks, shorts, reels or other bullshit, the rest are either yelling and acting macho, or really wanna gtfo of that bus.
Well thanks for the inside intel, because I briefly would consider it when I saw the local busses’ “Now hiring drivers!” stickers but then imagined this is what would make it pretty much hell every day. :D
Just like drug addicts, these people are addicted to dopamine and they will do anything to get it even if it makes everyone else uncomfortable
I think TikTok format video players are straight up drugs. It’s a real physical addiction which even has withdrawal symptoms
They are so appealing, I do avoid them but it’s just sad to watch everyone else become a victim of those
Physical addiction is a stretch
It doesn’t actually matter. A addiction will ruin lives if unchecked. No matter if physical or psychological. It’s all about definitions at that point too.
Where does physical end and where does psychological start.
It’s not a matter of one is worse than the other.
Why?
Is Tik Tok a physical substance entering your body? Just making sure we’re talking about the same thing.
some folks firmly believe everyone and everything exists solely to entertain them snd they cannot fathom that anyone else wouldnt feel the same
I was in a train replacement coach the other week, and sitting behind me were some guys who were watching YT Shorts or TikTok (Probably the latter) over speakers. I didn’t have my own earphones with me, so I had to hear his shit the whole way through.
If I was any sharper, I would have asked: “What gives you the confidence that any random person nearby appreciates what you’re hearing?”
I find that this works for most of my interactions with strangers. Question what media they are consuming and start a conversation from there.
If they felt so inclined to play their audio loudly I see it as an opportunity to engage with that.
Literally had a dude do this when the VP debate was on, and he was all cheering and pumping his fist soyboying about JD Vance
Did you punch him in the face? I that would hold up in court.
Its not their fault. The phones took away their headphone jacks.
Even current non Bluetooth are adapting the new Usbc insert so that’s not it.
People weren’t great about wearing headphones in public either.
Nobody took away their headphone jacks. It’s them who bought devices without one.
Ehh a bit disingenuous. Apple, samsung, and google took away the headphone jack. You either have to get an old phone (like late 2010s) or buy it from niche companies (sony phones, gaming phones, or some chinese phones)
I mean, yes, but a 3.5mm to usb-c adapter is like $10, so that’s still not really an excuse.
Most people use wireless headphones these days, and usb-c headphones are getting more common. (I’m hearing impaired, all headphones sound the same to me, but maybe an audiophile will tell me why usbc headphones suck compared to 3.5mm)
When I bought my new pixel I went to the gym that afternoon and immediately realised I couldn’t use my headphones because I hadn’t been mindful of my missing headphone jack. Worked out in silence, and bought an adapter on the way home for my headphones. Problem solved.
There’s tons of quiet things you can do on your phone if you’re bored and don’t have headphones.
The only people who are allowed to have their phones on full volume plasting noises without headphones are visually impaired people, because otherwise they’d need to put their headphones in just to check what time it is on their phone.
My brand-new Samsung phone has a headphone jack.
I see what you’re saying though, and while that may be true now, it hasn’t always been the case. If sales of the first iPhone model without a headphone jack had hit an all-time low and people kept buying the older models instead, Apple likely would have realized the mistake and brought it back. They did this with their shitty laptop keyboards and removing the HDMI port and card reader too. But instead, people just complained and still bought those devices anyway, signaling to manufacturers that it was okay, and then others followed suit and here we are now.
There’s always alternatives for people willing to stick to their principles. My device still has a removable battery as well and so did the one I had before.
Im glad you still believe in consumer friendly phones. Unfortunately all the flagships oned have decided one port is enough. As for consumer repairs, I wouldnt be surprised if it becomes completely impossible soon, given that apple did try blocking third part parts before with the iphone 13.
Unfortunately all the flagships oned have decided one port is enough.
Customers showed them it’s enough. I don’t blame the companies for it. Supply and demand. Why add features in your devices that only cost you more money to implement when removing it has no effect on the sales.
As for consumer repairs, I wouldnt be surprised if it becomes completely impossible soon
Consumers will be able to choose between repair or replacement of defective products within the two-year legal guarantee period. Companies will have to repair a product for free within that period, if cheaper than a replacement, and continue to offer affordable repairs for five to 10 years after a product’s sale even if it is outside of the guarantee.
Manufacturers and distributors will also have to inform consumers of their right to have products repaired and offer spare parts to independent repairers at reasonable prices.
I really wish people were more interested in open format ear buds and bone conductors. They are the perfect blend between personalized notifications, background music and being able to hear what’s going on around you as well as so much more comfortable than having your ear holes plugged up. I wear mine all day long sometimes and forget I’m even wearing them.
Got any links or recommendations?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/best-open-ear-earbuds-headphones
Think new Sony links are coming out.
My favorite are bose open but the price point is inflated a bit.
I have both current Linkbuds. I love the concept of the first one but they are uncomfortable for me no matter how I wear them (unless I damn near have them hanging out of my ear, but then they sound bad and fall out easily). The S model is one of my favorite earbuds I own. Super small and light with great sound and fantastic ANC and passthrough. Not quite the same as a truly open earbud though. I want to try the BOSE clip on one’s, but like you said they are pricy.
€240 for the Bose ones isn’t too bad. I know they’re inflated a bit but the quality is definitely top end
Sony stuff tends to be good but lacks physical buttons, really fucking annoying for accidental button pushes
Any tws with transparency functionality
https://www.soundguys.com/best-transparency-mode-earbuds-109883/
These pale in comparison to open format imo
I have bone conducting headphones, they are very bad in high nose environments, transparency mode tws is better
Can’t you wear ear protection and still hear bone conducted sound? Would that reduce the problem in high noise environments?
Yes, that is possible, however you won’t hear surroundings
Yes in high noise environments, like on airplane for example, open formats can be limited. Unfortunately I don’t think open formats can be your only headphone. That being said, for my day to day life at least they are my goto 95% of the time.
I live in the center of the city so in my case open format headphones is bad, however, i always use them at work when I’m in office and open format headphones are great at low noise environments, however, transparency tws is more versatile and can be your only headphones
City noise should be fine. Consider bose open for a much different experience than the bone conductors you mentioned. I use mine in the city too. It’s not the same as jet engines. Many of us can’t tolerate ear holes being blocked up by Earbuds for long periods of time. I find that really uncomfortable. Also transparency modes are active and will eat through battery and even the best never sound natural to me.
You don’t need to say Transparency mode is the best thing ever in ten comments.
Transparency mode is not nearly the same as open headphones. Its fine for a quick conversation but isn’t good at providing awareness of your surroundings. It has its place and is a great feature, but it’s not going to cut it for people looking for open headphones.
I swear to god, please please please do not blast your fucking music, even if it is rad like ratm, on the walking trail. No one likes it and it makes you look like an asshole and I have to glare at you instead of giving you a friendly wave.
I see a few cyclists doing that these days on the bike trails. Some of these absurd $10K+ bicycles even have speakers built into them. I guess it’s slightly less obnoxious since a bicycle will pass a walker or runner very quickly, but it’s still dickhead behavior. Even worse than music, though, is people who blast fucking preachers.
Blasting preachers is a special sort of asshole behavior I never encountered or considered before. I bet they think they are saving souls.
The dude definitely had the smug look of the saved walking amongst the damned. I don’t think he cared about saving souls at all, just doing his version of virtue signalling.
Hiked up to a ridge today. Guy up there smoking and playing a radio. Ugh.
You phone shouldn’t make any sound whatsoever when you’re in public period.
100%. Public areas need enough clear airspace for emergency announcements as it puts everyone in danger.
It can ring and give notifications, as long as they aren’t set to something obnoxious.
Unprompted, I will tell you the most obnoxious ring tone I have ever heard. It was on the subway and a voice was suddenly loudly proclaiming: “Warning! Warning! The owner of this phone is a self-confessed binge drinker” until some douchebag picked up the call.
It becomes obnoxious no matter what it is when they’re having a text conversation with someone and it’s going off constantly
I’m pretty old but do you know the Woody Woodpecker laugh? I used to work with a girl back before smartphones that had that as her text notification. It was the whole thing which takes like five seconds so sometimes it was just that fucking sound almost non-stop. Here it is, cursed fucking creation.
That sounds like something they would do to prisoners in Guantanamo.
I can’t imagine the ptsd you have
For me, if I’m actually having a conversation in public, I’ll silence my phone.
Right, but they were suggesting it should be silenced at all times, by default, even for the very first notification.
Put your phone on vibrate, you’ll survive.
That’s what my phone is set at 24/7, the only time it makes a noise from the speakers is when the alarm goes off in the morning.
I have my phone set so it sets itself to vibrate when it disconnects from my home WiFi. It turns the notification sounds back up when it reconnects. I’ve never had to worry about it again.
That’s the way
No, I don’t think I will.
In the before time, the long long ago, people didn’t have a portable social media machine
Well they should silence it at that point because obviously they’re paying enough attention to it and expecting responses, so they should be waiting for the vibrate if not looking at it directly.
But people don’t need to have their phone silenced at all times while in public, they just need to be attentive enough to answer and silence it. I frequently don’t even feel the vibration.
It’s probably obnoxious in real life but I really wanna do the ZZ Top ringtone from Bad Monkey
The worst part is that it’s just normalized enough that you can’t really call it out.
It’s normalized because it’s not a serious problem, it’s a minor, and extremely temporary annoyance the vast majority of the time.
Clearly you’ve never spent an hour+ on a bus with someone watching TikTok on a fucking Bluetooth speaker.
It’s incredibly obnoxious and there’s never a good reason for it.
Headphones are dirt cheap. Use them in public. No one has ever wanted to hear your bullshit.
Nobody should even speak in public! Or breathe my air!
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If someone told me to silence my phone in public they would get laughed at. And if you persist I’ll tell you to call the cops, who will then proceed to laugh at you.
Theatres, yeah, they shouldn’t even vibrate.
Edit: you’re prefences are noted and ignored. People have been loud in public since there has been public. Get over yourselves.
It interferes with public emergency announcements so there should be some clear enough airspace for it.
Call the cops?
Yea you’re obviously a child. I mean literally based on that response.
Please laugh at me in public
Wilco, you won’t be the first, and you won’t be the last. Even of it’s some sort of kink.
Oh it isn’t a kink kiddo.
Oh, you think this is some sort of threat? Please threaten me…
I won’t partake in your hatred and selfishness.
You’re the one pushing it.
Presumably, for such a complaint, the cops wouldn’t even bother to come to laugh at you unless they were very very bored. This is probably true in both circumstances you described. Also, I can’t speak for others, but unless detained I wouldn’t stick around most public locations long enough for someone to complain about a notification from my phone. Even if a call is received and must be answered, it seems appropriate to accept the call and leave the immediate shared area if possible. Obviously, in such circumstances as a moving bus, quickly leaving isn’t really feasible.
However, I partially agree with the person to whom you responded. Your phone shouldn’t make any media based sound (videos, music) in public. I also mostly agree with what I think you’re saying: in most circumstances, notification sounds are inoffensive. Movies are not the only exception to this but definitely are one. Laughing in the face of someone who requests quiet in a public shared area seems rude, though, and might escalate the situation.
To elaborate, recently I went to see a dental surgeon. As I approached the waiting area, my immediate thought was to set my phone to vibrate. Once I entered, however, I realized that not only was there a TV in the space; also there was an elderly couple watching TV on their phones. Not only were they doing so, not only were they watching something different from what was on the TV, not only were they watching their media at BLARING volume, but they were also watching vastly different content. In this circumstance, notifications could be - reluctantly - forgiven, but their blasting and conflicting media made it very difficult to concentrate on filling out my paperwork.
I’m too much of a wimp to have approached them, but in that circumstance I think it would have been appropriate to ask them to silence their media and would have only required a vague awareness of the existence of others for them to have done so without prompting.
Though the cops, if they came, would likely still have just laughed.
An aside: as soon as the presumed wife left the waiting area, the likely husband shut off his media. I don’t know what that means, but wanted to mention it.
Man, my brother is the worst for this. Has multiple pairs of headphones, usually at least one on his person, and STILL will blast his Instagram reel on speaker as if everyone around him wants to hear his doomscrolling and brainrot memes
okay, but what if it’s a very important porn video? /s
You stream it to the nearest screen. Don’t keep that confined to your phone alone.
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