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    2 months ago

    2A’ers are just mentally handicapped, there’s no other way to explain it.

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      2 months ago

      Okay, so what’s your idea? You’re going to give up your freedoms for some temporary safety?

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          Every freedom. You’re giving the government a green light to do whatever they want to you. Two pure examples of this is China and Russia. How do you think tyrannical regimes come along? By taking away your ability to defend yourself. This has been shown in history multiple times.

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                This is objectively true. I have the freedom to go to college without being in crippling debt, the freedom to take 5 weeks of paid vacation every year, the freedom to go to a doctor without fear of bankruptcy, the freedom to travel or move to another country at will…

                Living in the US has literally no upside.

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                  Haha and how much are you getting taxed up your arse for all the ‘free’ stuff exactly? Good luck with the third mortgage so you can keep up with tax payments while you freeze your arse off this winter and half your children die due to malnourishment.

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                    Dude, I’m American and even I know they get more time off, get paternity and maternity leave, can take more vacations, have better transit, pay less in health insurance. They have enough disposable income to do the things we do, but don’t have to worry about the other bullshit as much. Nothing they get is “free”, and they know this, but they don’t have to think twice about using the services.

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                    We keep up with the mortgage because the minimum wage here is $16USD.

                    The average Australian citizen pays $17,000 in taxes as opposed to $14,000 for seppos.

                    For that, I know myself and all my fellow Australians will never be crippled with medical debt, as going to the hospital is always free. We have the second best health care in the world, right next to the UK.

                    Us Aussies like to look out for each other, rather than you individualistic, seemingly selfish yanks.

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        2 months ago

        A response from a 2A’er with a “tard” suffix that illustrates my point. Thank you.

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            What you have is shitty slogans and zero thought. You’re a trumpet for NRA propaganda and you’re too dumb to even realise it.

            The whole “security for liberty” shit you’re referring to? Actually means the exact opposite of what you’re trying to say.

            https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

            SIEGEL: So far from being a pro-privacy quotation, if anything, it’s a pro-taxation and pro-defense spending quotation.

            WITTES: It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. It means, in context, not quite the opposite of what it’s almost always quoted as saying but much closer to the opposite than to the thing that people think it means.

            Now which is a more real risk to the collective security of Americans, daily mass shootings or some fantasy where the government is “coming to take muh guns” and you end up living in some hills fighting a guerrilla fight against a military made up of your fellow nationals?

            Gee, idk, should we ask the kids who survived Sandy Hook how they feel about it? (They’re old enough to vote now.)