Morning after thoughts:

• The memes from this one are already amazing. “Concepts of a plan” is going to haunt Trump until his dying day.
• Trump usually dominates any conversation he’s in, simply by being the loudest one there. It often works for him. Last night, it worked against him, because he was loud about what Harris wanted him to be loud about.
• In retrospect, the level of optimism Harris was able to maintain throughout was very impressive. She looked happy to be there, even when confronted by Trump’s obvious mental illness, and I don’t think she was faking it.

I’m starting to have genuine hope for November.

Trump and his handlers just before the debate:

Handler: Mr President… (he insists on being called that by his people) - before you go out there I want you to promise again that you won’t bring up the thing about people eating cats and dogs…
Trump: yeah, fine
Handler: Remember how we talked about this? And how you promised that you won’t bring it up no matter what happens?
Trump: Yeah, fine, whatever.

Can anyone explain what “spheres of terra” is?

That gonna be great late shows comming 🤩

This got around my presidential filter, too much Trump is depressing.

I’m really going against the grain from lemmy. Trump certainly did not win, but Harris lost.

Trump performed as expected, rambled and lied, but we can all be honest in saying this affected his polling very little. I think the best (or worst depending on who you are voting for) case scenario is if this dog / goose thing ends up being true and Trump can ride that wave of calling every other correction false and in control of his enemies (before anyone says it, I refuse to believe the word of one politician over another, I want hard proof it is happening or hard proof it is not).

Kamala lost though. Trump got her a few times especially at the beginning. She also most definitely fucked herself over shilling for Israel and oil / fracking. She is definitely pushing the young vote away and into the green party territory which will impact her where it counts. She also brought up her gun ownership and how she will not go after firearms, but she has claimed in the past to support “assault weapons” bans and madatory buyback programs.

Best case scenario, this debate had 0 influence, worst case, slight increase to Trump depending on the next few days. The biggest loser of tonight? The American People for having to choose between these two.

This wins the night…

OMG Trump is off the rails and i absolutely love it!

Moderator: "Just to be clear, you have a plan? "

Trump: “I have concepts of a plan?”

In the post debate interview, Tim Walz just referenced Trump as an old man yelling at clouds. I love it.

“I have the concepts of a plan. I’m not president right now!”

Holy shit, dude. You biffed that one hard.

“Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.”

— Former President Donald J. Trump

“i’m a gun owner, we’re not taking guns away.” strongest opinion from a democrat i’ve heard on this topic.

So here are my thoughts:

• First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
• But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didn’t watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggers’ desperate spinning about halfway through.
• The real question is how off-putting he’s been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but I’m aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
• On the issues, Harris didn’t really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
• The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trump’s bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.

All in all, I didn’t hate this (other than the sound of Trump’s face hole).

“Donald trump was fired by 81 million people”

Throwing his catch phrase against him!

From where I was sitting, it seemed like Harris beat the ever-loving-shit out him. He took every piece of bait she laid out. I’m not the target though, so I hope undecideds saw what I saw.