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Ya know, maybe the US did it. But, (and I know this is a hot take) maybe China is lying. I know that’s crazy, because China is a bastion of truth. I know that China is known the world over for being fair and balanced. Not since George Washington and the cherry tree has there been such an honest institution as the CCP. But I also feel that they could be lying. I mean who knows.
Also, yeah? Who cares? Let’s talk about the countless times Chinese agents have been caught infiltrating US systems. If we’re accepting that this is just a part of spycraft in the Internet era then you don’t get to bitch and whine when you catch someone else doing it
Everyone’s been bitching and whining about catching others spies, though?
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Who cares about American propaganda?
Tbh, I make it a point to ignore any bad things my government does. The US is literally saving the world, obviously we should be able to spy on whoever we want.
America accuses China of cyberattacks all the time. Yet I don’t see many Americans questioning government narrative there.
OT but I love your username lol
Opinions from anybody who can’t even spell CPC correctly can be safely discarded.
It’s just another triggered Yank
Good. We need more of it since the CCP has made a habit of targeting US infrastructure and civilian targets.
Ah yes, because escalation has worked so well in the past.
And what do you propose a sovereign nation who’s citizens, business, and assets are constantly under attack from state sponsored actors do? Bend over?
This isn’t escalation. It’s minimal tit-for-tat.
Constantly under attack? Remember that even back when the KMT was in power, Chiang Kai-Shek was (rightfully) suspicious that the CIA was plotting a coup to overthrow him.
Moreover, when the CCP was rising with Mao Zedong, the CIA used something like $100 million USD at the time to try to create a third group in China that could combat the other two (the KMT and CCP) with the explicit goal of undermining Mao’s power.
China’s existing actions don’t even come close to tit-for-tat and America’s continued subversive actions show that nothing has changed whatsoever. The US still thinks it can fuck around in the domestic affairs of other countries and leave unscathed without retribution.
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Again, literally nothing China or Russia could do short of literally executing the President come even close to what the US attempted to orchestrate.
Tit for tat assumes a fair response. China and Russia are being more than fair.
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Organizing a coup with the goal of overthrowing the government is an entirely separate thing to… Overthrowing the government by killing the president?
Such as?
No evidence, as always
Crickets and their brother’s cousin’s aunt’s mother’s sister’s network engineer twice removed… Who just so happens to get all of his news exclusively from the government propaganda trough(pick a color).
China crying when the US does the same thing in return. Why does the CCP act so childish ?
No really why ? They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone. They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders, spy on several government infrastructures and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?
I really despise these hypocrites.
How about we publish instances of such crimes by all governments and hold all of them accountable?
Well, it’s just common sense to treat others the same way you expect them to treat you. In a
perfectmore pleasant world neither the west or china would feel the need to spy on each other, but we are where we are.In a
perfectmore pleasant worldIn a more pleasant world, America would’ve shuttered its surveillance apparatus and downcycled the embryonic military-industrial complex directly after World War 2, rather than being cartoonishly evil and inventing a new term for a ‘propaganda war’ with aim to snuff out the one system that presented clear opposition to the oligarchic tyranny of capital; then having a couple dozen courses of dessert stomping out every burgeoning society in the Global South looking to free themselves from the yoke. Instead, America wanted to rule the world; and thus, no one has been allowed to disarm.
Because the death cult won’t come to its senses.
It’s for the cameras and their own citizens.
This is Sasquatch Timecube territory. Crazy conspiracy theory ranting.
I’d like to kindly inform you that our use of Timecubes is well within interdimensional regulations. It’s humans who do all the crazy conspiracy ranting, that’s entirely on you guys.
Fair enough.
China and US are a reap problem to this world.
Quiet, the upper halfers are talking
Cry more, Xi
Number 1: that’s terror
Number 2: that’s terror
I mean doesn’t this just mean at most, that the software used was developed by NSA? It’s not like we haven’t had our own shortage of government hacks in the last few years, it’s not an insane notion to think somebody could use our tools to make it look like us.
US stealing tech from China, how the turn tables.