Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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    Idk man, if you have hostages taken and your response is full all out assault, your basically signaling you don’t actually care about those hostages. You are practically putting the hostage takers in the position where execution is the only option. Cause that’s the threat when you take hostages. This is pretty simple. So don’t get all “Hamas killed the hostages” when Israel did nothing to save them. Might as well pulled the trigger themselves.

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      Those hostages would still be alive if Hamas didn’t kidnap them. Quit victim blaming.

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        And that Hamas soldiers father/wife/children/brother/sister would still be alive if Israel didn’t kill them. Kinda tit for tat? Honestly, Hamas taking hostages is the humane thing. Israel doesn’t take hostages. They just kill.

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            Brother, this is basic violence begets violence response. I ain’t over here clapping and cheering as Hamas executes Israelies. I am mourning. But I also recognize that Hamas is a monster of Israel’s creation and it will not go away without either recognizing that and making actual change to the lives of palastinians and giving them their land back and self determination.

            Or genocide the palastinians.

            Those are the two options. Hamas wasn’t the first form of palastinian resistance and it won’t be the last. That’s basic. So if we wanna sit here and talk “psycho response”, I suggest you consider why your on team genocide.

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              I will be the fist to agree to a two state solution, but do the Palestinians really want that? What happens when Palestine as a formal country attacks Israel? I am not advocating for genocide, but let’s be honest, this war will only end when one side ceases to be…and well…one side actually spent the last 80 years improving their lives instead of ruining them.

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                Friendly reminder that Palestine is an illegally occupied territory and it’s near impossible to “improve your life” without first freeing yourself from oppression.

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                  Also, “I am not advocating genocide, but” is so telling about how they actually feel. They’re reveling in this but have to hide their true colors. Good thing they’re really awful at doing that.

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                    Bloody hell, yes. I missed that!

                    I’m not advocating for genocide, but…

                    Predictably goes on to unambiguously advocate for genocide

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                    If you abuse our flagging system again, you will be temporarily banned. “Breaks community rules” is not enough. The posts you flag do not break community rules.

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                  Literally all of that is a lie. Prior to Oct 7, Gaza was not occupied by Israel. We have put millions into trying to improve their lives, but instead they dig up water pipes to make missiles. There were greenhouses and airports in Gaza, but they disassembled them to kill Jews.

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                    Literally a lie.
                    Amnesty international.
                    The UN.
                    Pretty much every government in the world.

                    All liars.