• huginn@feddit.it
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    2 months ago

    … Doesn’t help that it described fascism as well.

    I mean that’s, like, literally their name

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      2 months ago

      People really need to read Marx man…

      He literally described fascism decades before it was born. He said the contradictions of capitalism would cause people to look for solutions, and a “false” path people would find was that indeed capitalism had to be overcome. But that they had to return to a pre-capitalist life, return to the land and to feudalistic idealisms. Fascist Italy literally had “guilds”…

      Marx said these “anti-capitalists” would see value in communist rhetoric, because they agreed with communists half-way. But they missed that the only solution is to move forward. That before capitalism, there were contradictions that inevitably led to capitalism, and it would just happen again.

      Fascism is literally miopic anti-capitalism. It’s what happens to actual justifiable dissatisfaction and anger at the system without theory and understanding.

      Yes, fascism really does sound like communism. It’s the goal, it’s how it’s born. It SOUNDS like communism, but has none of the solutions or the substance.

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        2 months ago

        I have read Marx. I’ve also read Gramsci in the original Italian.

        My point was just that “Fascism” comes from fascio - the binding of individual sticks together to make a stronger whole.

        It’s literally “Sticks together strong”

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          2 months ago

          Sure, but as others have said, that is just a basic political observation that most ideologies have made. Fascism is, as I said, entirely devoid of substance. Only the appearance of such.

          “Sticks together strong” is as much a political statement as “water is wet”.

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      2 months ago

      I honestly don’t see how literally all politics don’t boil down to “apes together strong”.

      Some of them have smart apes manipulating the rest to use their strength against their own interest. Some of them have apes going together using their strength to enforce things we don’t agree with, like racist tribalism/nationalism. But it’s all a matter of people cooperating to enforce and otherwise enable what they think they need to, to meet their goal.