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A great way to tell if they mean “anti-imperialist” as “against the conquering and subjugating of other groups” or instead just “in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe.”
Most of China’s alleged propaganda is just uncomfortable truths for Americans, like that our system is responsible for more death than almost all others combined since World War 2.
Imperial Japan rather famously fought against the United States and various Western European colonial powers. Had you lived back during the second world war era, would you have viewed them favorably?
But to be clear, the conflict between America and Japan was a clash between two expanding empires. We didn’t fight Japan because of an outpouring of empathy for the Koreans and Chinese.
Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn’t to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn’t still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn’t like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who’s interests happen to be misaligned with the first one.
just deciding that anyone that doesn’t like the west must be good
Assuming you’re talking about the average tankie, this isn’t the position they hold. Their argument is “America is the greater evil, therefore supporting America’s enemies is the lesser evil, even if those enemies aren’t good themselves.” Russia is about as rabidly anticommunist as America is these days, but most communists around the world support Russia against America because America is very clearly the greater evil. The whole conflict in Ukraine wouldn’t have started in the first place if western powers didn’t back a color revolution to replace the Russian-leaning president of Ukraine with a Europe-leaning-and-also-fascist one.
Zelenskyy wasn’t the one elected after the Euromaidan coup, that was Poroshenko. The Ukrainian civil war started under Poroshenko’s watch, directly in response to his government pushing through ethnonationalist policies, such as banning Russian in the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine.
Zelenskyy was elected on the promise of ending the war. Unfortunately instead of a real politician with a base and a bunch of people who can make things happen, Zelenskyy was a television personality. As a result, he was unable to get this done - Azov battalion, the out-and-proud fascists who were the main aggressors on the Ukrainian government’s side, told Zelenskyy to get fucked after he told them to stand down.
While Ukraine had signed an agreement to shelve the policies that started the war and protect their ethnic minorities in order for the DPR and LPR to rejoin them, the Ukrainian government hadn’t even started implementing the first step of the agreement, and Azov was dropping mortar shells on apartment buildings. This leads us to the Russian “invasion” which the DPR and LPR had been asking for for years, and Zelenskyy being put into a position where his only option was to double down on backing the fascists.
So in a roundabout way, Zelenskyy is a fascist, but it’s by way of association rather than his initial position when he was elected. He could and should have pushed harder to implement Minsk II, and if Azov threatened him he could and should have asked Europe and Russia for help putting down his rogue fascist military battalion. But he didn’t do those things, and instead tolerated their crimes until he eventually threw in with them completely.
A great way to tell if they mean “anti-imperialist” as “against the conquering and subjugating of other groups” or instead just “in favor of anyone that declares themselves to be against the United States and Western Europe.”
make this the primary pillar of your politics and you’ll be right 90% of the time.
Eh, more so when going against Russia and China. They peddle propaganda like a farmer flings manure on their field.
Most of China’s alleged propaganda is just uncomfortable truths for Americans, like that our system is responsible for more death than almost all others combined since World War 2.
Yeah, oppose those degenerate effeminate globalhomo Westerners, king! 👑👑👑👑👑
Imperial Japan rather famously fought against the United States and various Western European colonial powers. Had you lived back during the second world war era, would you have viewed them favorably?
I did say “90%”, not “100%”
But to be clear, the conflict between America and Japan was a clash between two expanding empires. We didn’t fight Japan because of an outpouring of empathy for the Koreans and Chinese.
Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn’t to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn’t still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn’t like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who’s interests happen to be misaligned with the first one.
Assuming you’re talking about the average tankie, this isn’t the position they hold. Their argument is “America is the greater evil, therefore supporting America’s enemies is the lesser evil, even if those enemies aren’t good themselves.” Russia is about as rabidly anticommunist as America is these days, but most communists around the world support Russia against America because America is very clearly the greater evil. The whole conflict in Ukraine wouldn’t have started in the first place if western powers didn’t back a color revolution to replace the Russian-leaning president of Ukraine with a Europe-leaning-and-also-fascist one.
If Zelenskyy seems like a fascist to you, one wonders how you’d react to an actual fascist.
showing your ass here
Zelenskyy wasn’t the one elected after the Euromaidan coup, that was Poroshenko. The Ukrainian civil war started under Poroshenko’s watch, directly in response to his government pushing through ethnonationalist policies, such as banning Russian in the Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine.
Zelenskyy was elected on the promise of ending the war. Unfortunately instead of a real politician with a base and a bunch of people who can make things happen, Zelenskyy was a television personality. As a result, he was unable to get this done - Azov battalion, the out-and-proud fascists who were the main aggressors on the Ukrainian government’s side, told Zelenskyy to get fucked after he told them to stand down.
While Ukraine had signed an agreement to shelve the policies that started the war and protect their ethnic minorities in order for the DPR and LPR to rejoin them, the Ukrainian government hadn’t even started implementing the first step of the agreement, and Azov was dropping mortar shells on apartment buildings. This leads us to the Russian “invasion” which the DPR and LPR had been asking for for years, and Zelenskyy being put into a position where his only option was to double down on backing the fascists.
So in a roundabout way, Zelenskyy is a fascist, but it’s by way of association rather than his initial position when he was elected. He could and should have pushed harder to implement Minsk II, and if Azov threatened him he could and should have asked Europe and Russia for help putting down his rogue fascist military battalion. But he didn’t do those things, and instead tolerated their crimes until he eventually threw in with them completely.
lmao the mods remove shit you can find on wikipedia as “misinformation”, not beating the fascism allegations .world
How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%?
Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%?
Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%?
Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%?
Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%?