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To be fair, just because somebody said something good/reasonable, it doesn’t necessarily mean they walked the talk. You can probably find a good quote from any evil dictator.
There are a fair amount of Hitler quotes that sound reasonable. Until you zoom out and look at the everything else, anyway.
The 3rd Reich had one of the strictest animal protection laws, it spoke out against smoking. and Hitler himself was vegetarian at the end of his life
Under George W. Bush, the US invested in HIV/AIDS programs
Just because somebody says / does something good doesn’t mean they’re a good person.
Nixon did a lot for improving environmental protections while also believing himself to be above the law in a way verging towards, “I am the state.”
I feel like this is a big thing modern communists have the biggest problem with. I mean, it’s a problem that spans most of the political spectrum, but communists have he biggest problem because it leads to them defending the ccp and denying history to prove that communism is good. Because political affiliation is team sports now, so it’s all about staking your ground and defending everything on your side, no matter how insane it makes you. Stalin did terrible things. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t right about some things. But e-communists just can’t seem to separate the two.
Yeah, and the absolute worst thing is, they’re gatekeeping harder than the Linux community.
So you’re apparently “Liberal” if you don’t think that Stalin was a G?
It’s not as if Stalin was beloved by his fellow party members either.
Lenin once said: "Stalin is too crude, and this defect which is entirely acceptable in our milieu and in relationships among us as communists, becomes unacceptable in the position of General Secretary. I therefore propose to comrades that they should devise a means of removing him from this job and should appoint to this job someone else who is distinguished from comrade Stalin in all other respects only by the single superior aspect that he should be more tolerant, more polite and more attentive towards comrades, less capricious, etc. "
Trotsky actively opposed Stalin and got the ice pick in return and last but not least Tito distanced Yugoslavia from the USSR after he fell out with Stalin.
Ofc Cyber Ghost doesn’t directly say that every opposition to Stalin is liberal but I do think he does heavily imply not simping for Stalin makes you a liberal (which would technically make Tito, Trotsky and even Lenin liberal and imo shows the absurdity of their thinking).
You like Nazis? You are literally comparing the person who lead the Holocaust to the person who saved the world from the Nazis
Dude Stalin helped the nazis take Poland, then when Hitler turned on the USSR, he threw 20 million soviets into the meat grinder. All to have Eisenhower coax a Nazi surrender, which made Stalin super butthurt and demand a new surrender the next day.
The soviets were responsible for 3/4 German military deaths. They kicked ass. Stalin did not.
Oh yeah, preventing genocide of your people by the Germans is really just throwing people to the meat grinder. Poland was aggressive towards the Ukrainian SSR and needed taken care of. The Nazis were irrelevant in that regard
Stalin did that when he was ignoring his generals telling him that the Germans were going to invade, then WHEN THEY WERE ACTIVELY INVADING? Because he LIKED HITLER and THOUGHT HIS FRIEND WOULDN’T BETRAY HIM?
THAT Stalin?
You clearly know nothing about this whatsoever. If you somehow think Stalin likes Hitler then you must be drunk or somthing
fucking moron he literally talked about it. read literally anything that isn’t delivered to you by your fuckwit party.
JFC you tankies are batshit insane lol.
Go outside and touch some grass.
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Bro you’re dealing with lemmygraders, they think the holodomor was nazi propaganda, and even so, all those Ukranians deserved it too.
Oh for sure. Hence the dismissal with reference and not actually engaging with the chucklefuck.
To be honest, I do not understand, why people try to judge quotes by its authors. If Adolf Hitler once said that Erarth is round, the authorship doesn’t make this quote automatically false. Even bloody dictators can say sometimes something truly, whats the problem here?
The problem is that people take quotes like this as an excuse to slippery-slope into loving everything else Stalin did too. Why, I couldn’t say. It’s pretty fucking obvious that Stalin and Mao and Mussolini and etc. were horrible people but yet we still have people in the modern day tripping over themselves to suck off dictators that died a century ago.
Yeah the guy who ordered an ice pick lodged into Trotsky’s head, what a swell fella.
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That’s another good thing Stalin did
If it was so good why did he deny doing it?
Oh hmmmm, I wonder why
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Did you seriously not get it? I hope you are joking but since you hate Stalin you probably are a Nazi and they tend to not understand things
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Because the left-opposition opposed the real material development of the USSR and foolish felt they ought to take the party in a negative direction due to unexplained pseudophilosophical reasom
You are a red fascist, definitionally.
And you hate Stalin so you must be a Nazi. You calm be a fascist well you attack anti-fascists
*insert pic of shit on a pig’s scrotum * hehe i win, dumb lib
Not the one libeling anti fascists. Go back to your Fox News
Dude, put the meth down.
This is what tankies actually believe
Shitty people can say reasonable things lol, doesn’t mean they practice what they preach.
edit: Holy fuck, you tankies are fucking unreal. Stalin was a god damn monster lol.
The only way you could claim Stalin didn’t practice this is a complete and utter lack of knowledge on the subject
The guy who displaced every minority population that lived near a border, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths? The guy who organized famines?
Wow removing people from active war zones, how evil
you are truly a fucking moron who knows NOTHING about this, huh?
you think the Crimean Tartars were exterminated because of active war zones? make like your leader’s best friend. Red fascist bastard.
You would have left the people there to die and be killed by Nazis?
Is that why Stalin gave thousands of empty Crimean farms to ethnic Russians immediately after deporting the Tatars?
That’s false and libelous and you know it. You haven’t provided a shread of evidence for those ridiculous assertions
tbf, acting like everyone having employment is a prerequisite for freedom is a pretty damn liberal attitude.
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Lip service