What are the odds of Khelif winning a defamation lawsuit against Boebert? She’s falsely accusing her of being trans and therefore being ineligible to participate in women’s boxing.
Well an Olympic athlete is probably a public figure in this context, so she’d need to show that Boebert defamed her “with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not.”
Pretty good, I’d wager.
Remember there’s a harm component as well - Khelif is Algerian, where being outed as LGBTQIA of any stripe can get you killed by the state.
Where would the lawsuit even take place?
It’s a little more complicated than that:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif
"In March 2023, Khelif competed for the gold medal in the finals at the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships; however, she was disqualified shortly before her gold medal bout against Chinese boxer Yang Liu for failing to meet the International Boxing Association’s (IBA) eligibility criteria. According to the Algerian Olympic Committee, Khelif was disqualified due to medical reasons; later reports indicated her testosterone levels were too high to compete.[21][22] Uzbekistani boxer Navbakhor Khamidova was awarded the bronze medal instead of Imane Khelif.[23]
In 2023, IBA president Umar Kremlev said that the disqualifications were because DNA tests “proved they had XY chromosomes”.[24][25] The Washington Post stated, “It remains unclear what standards Khelif and Lin Yu Ting failed [in 2023] to lead to the disqualifications”,[25][26] further writing, “There never has been evidence that […] Khelif […] had XY chromosomes or elevated levels of testosterone.”[25] The IBA did not reveal the testing methodology, stating the “specifics remain confidential”.[27]"
Why does matter? She’s not transgender in any way, making Boeberts claims false.
Boebert isn’t the first person to make the claim and they have been sanctioned previously. Like I say, it’s a complex matter.
I would disagree. When the right (known liars like Boebert, Trump, Logan Paul, etc) continuously lie about anything to try to rile up their base, I say it’s imperative to completely disregard their opinions unless someone trusted is making the accusations. This is what they expect, this is exactly what they want. We need to ignore them. Not even bring it up. Keep them fringe and outcast them as weirdos. They bring nothing good to the table but lies, hatred, and divisiveness.
I would say the head of her boxing federation is a trusted source. That’s what makes this complicated.
“In 2023, IBA president Umar Kremlev said that the disqualifications were because DNA tests “proved they had XY chromosomes”.[24][25]”
Reportedly the XY test was false, but at the same time, they aren’t releasing the methodology that allowed them to say she has XY chromosomes.
You mean the boxing federation filled corruption and that was disqualified by the Olympics?
I would disagree. As another poster pointed out, there are serious questions about the integrity of the IBA, not least the fact that they aren’t recognised by the IOC. To suggest that the IOC wouldn’t have clear eligibility criteria feels at best misguided.
The IOC does have clear eligibility requirements for atheletes who are legitimately transgender, I’m not sure how that applies to born-female atheletes. You have to have a testosterone level below a set level for a full year before and during competition.
We already know she failed that test previously, or rather, PURPORTEDLY failed that test previously, given the overall jankieness of her boxing federation.
That’s what makes the whole thing complicated. Did she REALLY fail it? 🤔 Is the boxing federation corrupt? 🤔 It’s a big ball of suck.
But my point is that Bobo’s accusation isn’t some bullshit she just made up, like 99% of everything else she says.
The president of the IBA (Umar Kremlev) is a Russian in a position of privilege, a position that is easily influence by Putin’s agenda (who hate anything pro LGBTQ+). I would argue, with plenty of facts to back it up, that the IBA is compromised and is unable to have a neutral stance on this matter.
Under Kremlev’s tenure as IBA head, he has heavily marketed himself, moved the IBA’s operations to Russia, suspended Ukraine from the IBA, and made the Russian state-owned energy giant Gazprom the sole sponsor of the IBA… The IOC stated that the IBA had failed to address governance, finance and corruption concerns.
There is nothing complex about it.
IBA was itself disqualified for corruption and being slanted pro Russia.
They never provided evidence to their claims, and can you imagine that this disqualification was involved right after she won against a Russian boxer?
Why didn’t they do it after she won against Nigerian (IIRC) boxer? Or what about her losing 9 times to other women?
Yup. This is the important context.
from this article:
She had previously competed without issues and was disqualified by the sport’s governing body only after she defeated Russian boxer Azalia Amineva in the 2023 tournament. The IBA is controlled by Umar Kremlev, who is Russian and brought in the state-owned energy supplier Gazprom as its primary sponsor and moved much of the governing body’s operations to Russia.
This week, the IOC described it as “a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA” in which Khelif and Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan “were suddenly disqualified without any due process.” Lin was suspended for failing to meet unspecified eligibility requirements in a biochemical test.
The reasons for the two disqualifications are extremely murky, as is almost always the case with the IBA. The governing body has revealed little about the nature of the tests, including what was tested and who tested it. This lack of transparency would be unacceptable in major Olympic sports, and the IBA has been banned from the Olympics since 2019.
It’s not more complicated. Following emphasis mine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Association
AIBA TO IBA: “In December 2021, the abbreviated name was changed to IBA in an attempt to rebrand the organisation and distance itself from the former administration.”
“…The organization has been involved in multiple corruption scandals including on several editions of the Summer Olympic Games. In December 2017, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) expressed concerns about the governance of AIBA…”
“…In September 2021, an independent report found that bouts leading up to and during the 2016 Rio Olympics had been manipulated. To investigate boxing at the 2016 Summer Olympics and potential corruption of the AIBA, Canadian lawyer Professor Richard McLaren was appointed by AIBA to conduct a three-stage investigation. The report found bouts had been manipulated for money (up to $250,000), the perceived benefit of AIBA…”
“The IOC had been alarmed by the fact that the IBA’s only sponsor is a Russian state-run energy giant Gazprom that supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine”
“In February 2023, USA Boxing announced its decision to boycott the 2023 World Championships (organized by the International Boxing Association)…, also accusing the IBA of attempting to sabotage IOC-approved qualification pathway for the 2024 Summer Olympics.”
The IBA is a corrupt organization, funded by a Russian, state-run, company. Them disqualifying someone carries no weight.
I’d argue that allegations of corruption in the league, in fact, makes the whole issue MORE complicated, not less complicated. ;)
IBA has Russian ties and has not provided evidence for that claim that wikipedia sources
The fact that you are a mod of this sub too but you spread misinformation on it is disgusting
Stop spreading transphobic and sexist misinformation
Has anyone ever seen this Karen when her mouth isn’t gaping wide open? Why does she always have to talk in all caps?
It needs to be open so she can fit all of the OTHER dicks from that Beetlejuice showing
Maybe she should move to Italy with the rest of the fascist weirdos that are upset about sex, gender, and ???.
No, please we have enough weirdos already here, can you keep yours to yourselves?
It’s easier to keep track if they’re all in one place though. I’m sure we can come up with a suitable location we all agree with, like the surface of the sun.
Too expensive to get them there. I suggest the bottom of the Marianas Trench. I hear they even have Fanta down there!
Just equip them with concrete boots, much cheaper than a spaceship.
Why bother with concrete boots? Rocks are cheap, maybe even free depending where you grab them from.
Security of course. You don’t want them coming dislodged! How would you secure the rocks? Burlap sacks full, tied with plastic rope to their ankles?
Make them eat them? I don’t know. That’s for logistics to figure out. We’re the idea people! That’s why we’re paid the big bucks. And by big bucks, I mean crippling national debt we have absolutely no control over being owned by a foreign nation, China.
Maybe France can take one for the yeam?
Wasn’t MTG doing crossfit? Maybe they should look into it. She could be not feminine enough for conservatives if she has been doing ‘men activities’ involving strength and muscles. Maybe MTG is secretly a men! Just sayin.
I’d say A men to that!
Same woman who was accused of spending 60k of campaign funds for personal expenses. She’s incapable of spending her own money for causes. It’s almost like she doesn’t actually believe in anything.
That’s a LOT of handies.
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They’re implying she’s raising money by performing hand jobs.
I was half-awake and read “handles”. I even read it a couple times and searched the article trying to understand.
Thanks.
Further context is that she was recorded fondling a guy while vaping at a musical and got ejected. He was also groping her.
It was also like an elementary school theater.
Haha that’s cool, the tired is real. Glad I could help.
Wtf is wrong with these people?
I didn’t even know about this at all and I still don’t care at all. The fact that she cares so much about this shit that does not affect her or anyone listening to her in any way is fucking weird.
Carpet bagger performing handjobs in a public theater.
Bigots are bigots for a reason, but what irks me more about this issue is that once they are proven wrong they just double down instead of admitting that they were mistaken. Not trying to excuse their transphobia, but after the initial dumb outrage they could’ve just moved on quietly after learning that she was born a female and I would’ve just thought of them as usual dumb-asshole-bigots, but noooooo, they just have to lower the bar even more.
Because the whole point is that they’re right and the world is wrong, and they’re going to take over and make it be right. Admitting a mistake would invalidate the project. Folding Ideas flat earth piece is a great window into the mindset.
… who cares?
Wait a second… She’s not firing mah labor!
Sad, potato-brained idiot.
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