• TootSweet@lemmy.world
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    Donald Trump might have just delivered a fatal blow to his reelection campaign

    Seems like wishful thinking. Trump says a hundred reprehensible things that should “deliver a fatal blow to his relection campaign” every day before breakfast. It’s not like massive numbers of his base quit supporting him over “fine people on both sides” or “stand back and stand by” or “you won’t have to vote any more.”

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      I’m pretty sure the only thing that would get his base to quit him is if he pulled off a facemask to show he was Hilary Clinton AND Barack Obama in a fat suit.

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      If “grab ‘em by the pussy” and the constant word salad doesn’t tank him, I’m pretty sure nothing he’d say would.

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        Yeah I think the whole “grab 'em by the pussy” farce was the first proof that Trump can literally get away with anything. Remember when he claimed he could shoot someone on Manhattan square and not lose any voters? I don’t think he was lying, for once.

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      They’ll explain it away (poorly) and then ignore it. If anyone brings it up they’ll just say “Fake news” and repeat the terrible explanation for it

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      I agree, If the fact that he was on Epstein’s Island dozens of times and multiple court cases that proved he’s a rapist didn’t doom him, this won’t either.

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      I remember hearing this headline ad nauseam during the last 2 elections and every single one of his many “fatal blows” barely moved the needle. His base does not give a single shit what he does. They’ll either embrace it, deny it, or ignore it, but it will never affect their opinion of him.

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      At this point he could spend an entire debate screaming racial slurs and defecating on the podium and not lose any voters.

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    Since nobody else posted the context, regarding Doug Emhoff:

    '“He’s a crappy Jew,” said host Sid Rosenberg. “He’s a horrible Jew.”

    And Trump agreed.’

    I think this may lose him a few supporters, but still, it’s Trump.

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      The appropriate response to that would be to stand up and leave. An acceptable response would be to correct this awful comment directly, akin to how McCain corrected that lady in the town hall thing about Obama.

      This weirdo just rolled with it.

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        It’s hard to believe where we are now. It seems like not to long ago, we had Obama vs McCain, who were both respectable candidates. It wasn’t until McCain chose Palin as his running mate that shit got weird. And the danger was amplified by McCain being old.

        I want to go back to politics where “both sides” were just corporate shills and everyone knew life was going to be OK, but corps were going to slowly fuck us.

        Now it seems like life and death.

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      Do we know the actual full context?

      I get so mad when I believe this stuff only to find out later that the context was more like: “he’s a terrible Jew” (as in, it’s fine that he’s Jewish, he’s just a bad Jew in comparison to other Jews.) it’s important because it’s not hating the fact that he’s Jewish, they’re saying he’s lesser than “good” Jewish people just like how we say Republicans are terrible Christians. We aren’t disparaging Christians (sure, some are) we’re saying that compared to what a Christian should be like, they are horrible.

      I hate that I even have to attempt to defend this, but our media is fucking horrible left, right, center. All corpo media is worthless cash grab click bait garbage so my first instinct is to assume they’re lying by omission for clicks and outrage…

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    Trump isn’t trying to win Jewish votes here. He’s telegraphing to his anti-Semitic base that Jews are not loyal – a classic anti-Semitic trope. It’s one of the many ways that Trump foments anti-Semitism.

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      “Well sure, they say I’m a friend of the jewish community, but as soon as I start blaming them for little things like “the economic and social decay of the entire world” suddenly they stop backing me. Damn unreliable jews!”

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    Remember, “just grab them by the pussy!”

    This man’s career isn’t going to be dead until a fucking stake is driven through it’s heart. He’s been caught saying vile things. He’s been caught doing vile things. He’s been convicted of felonies.

    And his base still votes for him. Don’t let off the gas pedal until we’ve made sure he loses the election and the next insurrection he has planned.

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      A memorable article URL to share with any undecided Jewish people you might know…

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      His base will play it off as a joke

      That’s generous. A lot of them will be happy about it

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      They’ll instead argue that Trump didn’t say that (which is true) and ignore the fact that he agreed to it, possibly even claiming that his agreement wasn’t towards race but instead just being a “horrible” person.

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    It doesn’t matter what Trump says or does at this point, him getting the votes isn’t the plan.

    Johnson will refuse to certify the results of the election that will put Democrats in the House, claiming some kind of bullshit irregularities with no proof, leaving the House controlled by the Republicans. They’ll then claim irregularities in the presidential election and force a contingent election where they have a 100% chance of electing Trump no matter what the public votes.

    More people need to be made aware that this is 100% legal for them to do, and more people need to be aware that it is almost certainly what they will try. The only thing that can possibly stop it is significant awareness by the mass population of Americans and significant publicity (similar to how mass awareness of Project 2025 turned it into a poison pill).

    EDIT: Oh look, they’ve already started making it super-legal in battleground states: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/06/georgia-local-election-boards-allowed-withhold-vote-certification

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      The gap here as far as I can read is that the house doesn’t certify their own results and they members elect the speaker before they get sworn in.

      So if the new Congress is majority Democrat, Mike Johnson can’t do anything about that, as the speaker is going to be selected by Democrats.

      Now the whole behavior in the event of an electoral tie is stupid, and that would probably be a trump victory, since each state has equal voice at that point.

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      Two things, Congress cannot exclude a member before they’ve been sworn in. After being sworn in it requires a 2/3rds vote.

      Refusing to seat anyone from the opposing party would and should result in massive riots with the goal of restoring our constitutional right to representation.

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    Wait hold on a second.

    For the record, I’m no trumpist. Trump can fuck off and die.

    But, I’ve listened to the audio clip and it’s not Trump who says these things. The the radio host. Trump just goes “uh huh… uh huh… uh huh” while the host talks.

    Can that even be pinned on Trump? Shouldn’t the radio host be under fire?

    And besides, this is the same bullshit from zionist jews calling jews that don’t support Israel in their conflicts as “self-hating jews”. This isn’t even new from these kinds of people.

    I just don’t understand the uproar.

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      He’s in the midst of an antisemitic conversation and just rolls with it. One would hope for better or of any random person, but especially if he’s such a bold person, then more than others you should expect him to loudly assert objections. If his whole brand is being loud, him being quiet and deferential now is pretty damning.

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        Oh of course! I agree with you there. But it’s just the way the media is spinning it that doesn’t reflect what really happens. And that makes you wonder what other things they wrote about where they made it sound worse that it actually is. For any candidate or any other news really.

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    The source is cited as heavily left leaning (albeit highly credible), and only cites a bunch of other literal democrats and heavily left leaning sources.

    Of course they’re going to be upset.

    Everyone should be upset of course, it’s unacceptable rhetoric from Trump, and he’s a raving jerk like he’s always been, even before 2016.

    But this is like saying water is wet, or like being surprised when a bunch of Republican sources are outraged at a Biden gaffe. The assertion that it’s a “fatal blow” would carry a lot more weight if they cited even somewhat less Democrat leaning sources.

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    “If the guy who wants you to think Nazis are fine people thinks I’m a c----- jew," replied X user @LOLGOP, “stitch it on my c----- kippah.”

    ?

    … cuntyy?

    I got nothin dude

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    This dude called dead service members suckers, advocated for grabbing women by the pussy, paid off a porn star hush money, made way too many racist remarks to keep track of.

    This “uproar” won’t affect him in any way.

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    This is of course dispicable. Unfortunately, people should already know this about Dementia Don, so I don’t expect this to sway anyone. Better to emphasize things his supporters care more about, like that he’s old, smelly, weird, and afraid to debate a black woman.

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    The bot is an annoyance, especially since mbfc is actually biased.

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        That’s not sufficient.

        A biased fact checking bot should not be allowed to operate in a public forum, giving weight to it’s opinions as though it were a neutral source of truth.

        If you want its services, you can go to their website and use it. It shouldn’t be here.

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          I think you’ve inadvertently demonstrated the problem with calling out media “bias”.

          as though it were a neutral source of truth.

          I would be interested to lean what, if anything, you’d say meets this description.

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          Report it to the mods, if they consider it is providing “low-effort comments” (Rule 5) then they can block the bot from the community. Else you can block on your own user level.

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            i vote to keep the bot, for no other reason than that dude’s butthurt about it

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            Blocking it at the user level effectively amplifies it, because then he doesn’t see and downvote it any longer.

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        No. I’ll deal with it in the way that seems appropriate for the moment.

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    I mean, this guy has been a bigot his whole life. His entire political career was launched on the back of a racist tirade against Obama. And then again, against Mexicans. Not sure there’s anything surprising about this.