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Ah, so rather than go against Trump’s bad policy and do something actually GOOD for our fellow human beings, we need to stick to this compromise position where we do something almost as bad as him? Because we are more worried about losing pro genocide voters than we are about an actual genocide, or something?
I hope that you can see how the “liberal” position on this is fucking disgusting
Vote Biden, obviously. His Gaza policy is still absolute dog shit. It is not complicated and pretending that anyone criticising him for it is voting for trump is dumb as fuck
Meanwhile leftists: “Make sure you don’t vote in a way that might keep actual fascists from power. Better the fascists win than people who will make things only mildly better
You: Reasons to not vote for the candidate opposing the fascists. Arguing with anyone suggesting voting against the fascists. Swerve completely the point about how much WORSE for Gaza and the rest of the Palestinians Trump would be.
Me: Thanks leftists. /s
You claim to want to make things better for Gaza, but not if it involves putting a mark in a box, because in your view that would be going TOO FAR and going against EVERY principle you ever held dear.
You talk such a big game about Gaza and fascism, but you wouldn’t stoop so low as to actually fucking vote on this issue. No, it’s much more important to take up the crusade against the centrists. Thanks leftists. Great help you were in preventing the fascists from taking over the most powerful country in the world.
Grow up and live in the real world. It sucks. Please try much harder to not make it worse.
Biden is literally sending bombs to Israel and is the current president, leader of the free world, yada yada. Trump’s support right now is just that, vocal. Although of course he was shitty when he was president. But that is why for me personally Biden is the one to criticise right now.
I understand why it’s annoying though if it seems very one sided. But “claim to care” - I think with an ongoing genocide it’s a very easy thing to care about. Why would you doubt that they care?
There’s a law that says he has to. 2. He’s at least trying to convince Israel to agree to a ceasefire and peace deal. 3. Trump is going to be much worse. 4. Republicans openly advocate for total genocide for example Nikki Hayley writing “finish them” on a bomb. 5. Trump is going to be much worse. 6. I don’t see any moral equivalence AT ALL between trying to convince Israel to stop and supporting the total obliteration of the Palestinian people. 7. I doubt that they care because they advocate letting the actual dictator win. Yeah, they talk a big game about Gaza, and their support is really strong, except they wouldn’t be prepared to even put a mark in a box? Forgive me for my scepticism.
But there’s the Leahy law, which is basically never applied to Israel but clearly makes it illegal to do so. Why does he ignore that?
Great! But firstly, it isn’t working and clearly he isn’t using all available leverage (e.g. Leahy). And how is veto-ing UNSC resolutions for a cease fire (and Palestinian statehood, lol) helping this, exactly? Seems like the opposite.
3 to 6 is whataboutism. It’s not relevant
7 - The issue here is that you’re again assuming they won’t vote for Biden when actually many of us will. If such a person will vote Biden, do you believe that they care?
No because then I would have helped trump lead america in to fascism. If you don’t think through the consequences of your actions, you get bad outcomes. Not voting for the person opposing trump leads to the worst possible outcome. It’s not rocket science.
No, you’re voting for the one literally trying to stop the war against Gaza and voting against fascism. What did you think the republicans mean when they write “finish them” on a bomb in front of the Israelis?
Biden is committing and supplying genocide, and is fascism is already taking hold under Biden. Do you genuinely think voting for a genocidal right-winger will stop fascism? Why do you think fascism appears in the first place?
I am not superior, I just think that “who should we vote for?” is a question for the ballot box and “what should we do?” is a more important question for the rest of the time.
Ah, so rather than go against Trump’s bad policy and do something actually GOOD for our fellow human beings, we need to stick to this compromise position where we do something almost as bad as him? Because we are more worried about losing pro genocide voters than we are about an actual genocide, or something?
I hope that you can see how the “liberal” position on this is fucking disgusting
Hello to fascism and Trump’s final solution to the Palestine question, it is! Got it!
Vote Biden, obviously. His Gaza policy is still absolute dog shit. It is not complicated and pretending that anyone criticising him for it is voting for trump is dumb as fuck
Me:
You: Reasons to not vote for the candidate opposing the fascists. Arguing with anyone suggesting voting against the fascists. Swerve completely the point about how much WORSE for Gaza and the rest of the Palestinians Trump would be.
Me: Thanks leftists. /s
You claim to want to make things better for Gaza, but not if it involves putting a mark in a box, because in your view that would be going TOO FAR and going against EVERY principle you ever held dear.
You talk such a big game about Gaza and fascism, but you wouldn’t stoop so low as to actually fucking vote on this issue. No, it’s much more important to take up the crusade against the centrists. Thanks leftists. Great help you were in preventing the fascists from taking over the most powerful country in the world.
Grow up and live in the real world. It sucks. Please try much harder to not make it worse.
The first two words in my last response were “Vote Biden” sooooooooo…
Sorry, yes, but it winds me up when people who claim to care about Gaza only criticise Biden and ignore Trump’s vocal support for Israel’s actions.
Biden is literally sending bombs to Israel and is the current president, leader of the free world, yada yada. Trump’s support right now is just that, vocal. Although of course he was shitty when he was president. But that is why for me personally Biden is the one to criticise right now.
I understand why it’s annoying though if it seems very one sided. But “claim to care” - I think with an ongoing genocide it’s a very easy thing to care about. Why would you doubt that they care?
But there’s the Leahy law, which is basically never applied to Israel but clearly makes it illegal to do so. Why does he ignore that?
Great! But firstly, it isn’t working and clearly he isn’t using all available leverage (e.g. Leahy). And how is veto-ing UNSC resolutions for a cease fire (and Palestinian statehood, lol) helping this, exactly? Seems like the opposite.
3 to 6 is whataboutism. It’s not relevant
7 - The issue here is that you’re again assuming they won’t vote for Biden when actually many of us will. If such a person will vote Biden, do you believe that they care?
Cool, so you’ll vote for Claudia De La Cruz of the Party for Socialism and Liberation? She’s antifascist and anti-genocide, unlike Biden and Trump.
No because then I would have helped trump lead america in to fascism. If you don’t think through the consequences of your actions, you get bad outcomes. Not voting for the person opposing trump leads to the worst possible outcome. It’s not rocket science.
But then you’re voting for genocide and eventual fascism.
No, you’re voting for the one literally trying to stop the war against Gaza and voting against fascism. What did you think the republicans mean when they write “finish them” on a bomb in front of the Israelis?
Biden is committing and supplying genocide, and is fascism is already taking hold under Biden. Do you genuinely think voting for a genocidal right-winger will stop fascism? Why do you think fascism appears in the first place?
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I am not superior, I just think that “who should we vote for?” is a question for the ballot box and “what should we do?” is a more important question for the rest of the time.
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