That’s why they hate us deep down. They can’t reconcile the fact that they are not actually the most progressive and tolerant person in the room.

We actually support the LGBT community, we don’t just say we do. We don’t just wait until politicians finally get on this side of the fence and then cheer when they finally get on the right side of history.

Liberals are the kind of person to say their community is accepting of all genders, all nationalities, all minorities etc. but then not ban fascists who threaten that acceptance (and even lives) because everyone deserves free speech. It’s like they walk half the way, then suddenly stop and stand there, claiming this is actually where the trail ends even though you and they can clearly see the trail keeps going beyond the horizon.

We have better politics in all ways.

  • We actually want things to get better
  • We actually don’t want people to die, no matter if it’s from homelessness, hunger, or Ukraine.
  • We actually want to hold our politicians accountable.
  • Shit, we actually want competent officials.
  • We actually want democracy, not whatever capitalism passes off as democracy (hey here’s a riddle, you get to vote every 4 years and your boss can decide your schedule without consulting you! Is that democracy?)
  • We actually recognize fascism, even when it comes from liberals.
  • We actually fight against it too.
  • We are able to deeply analyze societal issues and not simply repeat from our high school history lessons.
  • We know our history and geopolitics. Liberals will repeat from NATO propaganda. We’ve actually read about it.

This is impossible to the liberal who thinks so highly of themselves that they must, by default, be the most accepting and progressive person in the world.

And so they resort to calling you a CCP shill instead of actually examining their privilege and positions.

Face it liberals, we are actually the person you think you are. Not the person you want to be, because you don’t want to be anything other than what you are right now (because as a liberal you are, after all, perfect). But the person you and your fellow liberals spent years building up as being a pretty great guy.

And yes that includes whatever the fuck conservatives think they are.

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    During break, a colleague today (at a school) brought up Hitler after watching a documentary about it. We started talking, and he admitted he knew very little about Hitler and how he came to lead Germany, and wanted to know more. I analyzed the whole thing. Other colleagues in the area started jumping in and asking questions. They were appreciative of the way I talked about it and praised me for knowing so much about history and politics, while admitting that they also knew very little.

    Now, I’m not saying this story to tout my own horn, but to emphasize what happened next. Bear in mind, nobody at the workplace knows I’m a communist. They know, I’m left-leaning, but that’s it.

    Anyway, someone then jumps in and says communism and fascism are the same thing (“communism is red fascism and you have to be an idiot and not know any history to be either one”).

    I bite my tongue and laugh inside. Here they are admitting they know very little history and praising me for knowing so much of it, then saying communists don’t know history.

    At any rate, I don’t think I’ll reveal my politics any time so. It’s really effective injecting them with historical materialism without using the buzzwords.

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      Hahaha I can do you one better, a friend of mine asked why people hated Hitler so much (she is from a caucasus country, I am in Mitteleuropa), she was under the impression that only Stalin was bad and Adolf was just a particularly motivated guy whom one could/should be ambivalent about, particularly when compared to Stalin. She did listen very carefully to me and is a very smart woman, don’t get me wrong.

      Her friend (also from said country) explained at a later point that the education system in said country had degraded significantly since… I’m sure you can guess the rest

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        Unfortunately, the situation in my country, and among my fellow countrymen is the same. Especially the education part.

        Being a country that receives a lot of the refugees/immigrants jumping onto boats in the Mediterranean, we’ve devolved to the point where fascists are openly saying we should deport or outright kill immigrants. Last Friday, there were was even a pogrom organized, which resulted in a lot of beatings and burning-down of immigrant housing and businesses (but thankfully nobody was killed).

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      And i don’t understand their brand of cynicism either, they are ignorant of the problems around them and i myself am a cynic and everything does feel hopeless all the time but i do not understand how a liberal who is very much in support of the status quo and doesn’t want to fight for anything beyond the length of their shoe lace has anything to feel cynical about.

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        They’re in support of the status quo because their cynicism makes it impossible to image anything better. They’re “realistic”.

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    Liberals just care about having the hypothetical moral high ground.

    Like yesterday post about someone being mad because people were having fun about the Burning man flood. “A tragedy for an event that brings positivity to the world”, “burning man attendes are solid human beings with strong morals, financially responsible, upstanding members of society” 😂 this is peak liberalism.

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      Liberals (passive supporters of capitalism) only have two responses when they meet something that conflicts with their worldview: either they pretend it doesn’t exist or, if they are forced to reckon with the fact that it does, they will bend over backwards to try and prove that it’s not actually what it says. See how the USSR wasn’t “real communism” – something only liberals say, I have never heard a communist ever say that.

      They are in the first phase right now, where they can pretend I’m wrong and not describing reality. Thus they retain the moral high ground as described in the post.

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    Generous in assuming liberals have politics, and don’t just consume whatever’s on the television.

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    That’s very well articulated, and very much the reason why liberals have such a visceral hate for communists. I think the key part that infuriates them is that we reject the idea that nothing better is possible. Their whole world view is based on the idea of accepting the evils of capitalist society in favor of doing anything different.

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    Liberals don’t get mad at injustice. They have nothing to offer when you bring up why injustices even happen in the first place, and will eventually get angry at you if you don’t drop the issue. Do liberals get mad about cop city? About charter schools? About health care? About homelessness? About the millions that have died due to COVID?

    No. They don’t. They go “Ah jeez that’s terrible” and then they act like they can’t think about it anymore because “it can’t be helped.”

    Fucking hate that.

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      They do… for about five minutes before they’re switched back on to “this is all bad, but what can we do about it?”. As long as they have their state department designated enemies to rally against, they’ll blindly follow along since “we have it bad, but those ones are even worse!!”.

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    What’s next? Amnesty International barely does anything to help? L +Pelosi’sSlaying +NoToMAGA+ #Vote+ #RESIST+ #YallSeingThis#+ #Problematic PERIOD 💯💯 /s

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    I think this same argument is also very true when talking about veganism as well

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    Nah, don’t worry for me. I’m pretty confident of the superiority of my political opinion over the one of the average Hexbear user.

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      Face it liberals, we are actually the person you think you are. Not the person you want to be, because you don’t want to be anything other than what you are right now (because as a liberal you are, after all, perfect).

      I have literally addressed everything you could ever say