• Big Miku@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    Good meme! (I have no clue what any of it means other than the dates)

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      9 days ago

      Juneteenth celebrates the abolishment of slavery, I’d say people of colour are the most happy about that, and people of colour are stereotypically famous for making good food

      4th of July celebrates the US independence, which though not a predominantly a white holiday more white people (on account of being a racial majority) will celebrate it, and white people are stereotypically famous for making bland food

      • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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        9 days ago

        This seems pretty dumb… I don’t typically attribute amazing Mac and cheese to minorities.

        Like… Most other foods, sure. But this one? Come now…

        • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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          The meme is specifically referring to the quality of food at black cookouts versus white cookouts. If you’ve been to both, you know.

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            9 days ago

            Maybe the white people you hang out with are shitty cooks. It’s amazing how folks will continue stereotypes that don’t even make sense.

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              9 days ago

              I’m sure there’s plenty of people of colour who suck at cooking. Those are just stereotypes used for an Internet joke

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                9 days ago

                I know I’m into this meme way too deep here, but I think content like this is just rather divisive in a very subtle but damaging way. The comment I actually replied to goes to that next actual step saying the joke is truthful. Not the end of the world but I don’t think calling it out is inappropriate.

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            Naw. Mfers up at the break of dawn to start the fire don’t care about that. That’s just some eagerness to support racial stereotypes. All kinds of folks can throw down. If you’ve been to any of them, you know.

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            8 days ago

            I have been to both, and the stereotypes are wrong. Cooking skill is not inherent to race or culture, it’s within the individual at the stove.

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              They’re all kinds of things, and this whole concept is some divisive nonsense. People out here going to bat for racial stereotypes.

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        and people of colour are stereotypically famous for making good food

        Can’t say I’m familiar with that stereotype as it relates to black Americans. Immigrant minorities, sure.

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        I don’t think the meme itself is making that particular distinction, moreso just the difference in cuisine in general as a racial stereotype.

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        people of colour are stereotypically famous for making good food

        The stereotype I always saw was just KFC, watermelon and some purple drink. Maybe it was a bit more aggressive stereotype than what you had in mind

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          9 days ago

          as both Juneteenth and the 4th of July are American holidays, I referred to American stereotypes about Americans

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        I assumed it was: “typical black family Mac and cheese” (baked, delicious)

        “typical average American Mac and cheese” (not baked, more saucy, delicious)

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      Juneteenth does not celebrate the abolishment of slavery. It celebrates the news arriving in Houston. New Jersey had slavery six months after juneteenth. Also it only freed men.

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        I have never seen anything that says the Emancipation Proclamation or the 13th Amendment only freed men. Do you have a source for that?

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          Did women have the right to vote, to open a bank account, to live without a man controlling them?

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            Was it legal to own a slave who was a woman? Did women legally have the same rights as other women, regardless of skin color?

            Clearly there weren’t equal rights, just as clearly as the end of slavery didn’t mean the end of racism, but this event is significant enough to stand on its own