You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:

I’m sure there will be questions, let me see if I can address the most obvious ones:

  1. Can I still post negative stuff about Biden?

Absolutely! We have zero interest in running an echo chamber. However, if ALL you’re posting is negative, you may want to re-think your priorities. You get out of the world what you put into it and all that.

  1. Why now?

Presumption of innocence. It may be my own fault, but I do try to think the best of people, and even though they were posting negative articles, they weren’t necessarily WRONG. Biden’s poll numbers, particularly in minority demographics ARE in the shitter. They are starting to get better, but he still has a hell of a hill to climb.

  1. Why a 30 day temp ban and not a permanent ban?

The articles return2ozma shared weren’t bad, faked, or from some wing-nut bias site like “beforeitsnews.com”, they were legitimate articles from established and respected news agencies, pointing out the valid problems Biden faces.

The problem was ONLY posting the negatives, over and over and then openly admitting that dishonest enagement is their purpose.

Had they all been bullshit articles? It would not have taken anywhere near this much time to lay the ban and it would have been permanent.

30 days seems enough time for them to re-think their strategery and come back to engage honestly.

tl;dr - https://youtu.be/C6BYzLIqKB8#t=7s

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    share only the negative about Biden

    Pretending that there can be anything positive about liberalism (or it’s myriad servants - like Biden) is outright lying, liberal.

    I’d say we’ve been handling you liberals with kid gloves up until now.

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      That is some quality rage-bait lmao. It’s like a caricature of someone endlessly pumping themselves with Fox News, filled with a “you won because we let you” arrogance.

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        pumping themselves with Fox News

        You don’t even know what liberalism is, do you, liberal?

        Do tell… before today, has it actually ever occured to you that liberalism happens to be it’s very own ideology?

        Did you know that (so-called) “conservatism” isn’t, because, in reality, “conservatism” is just liberalism with extra hysterics?

        No? Yes?

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          Liberalism is it’s own ideology. Conservatism isn’t because it’s just leberalism with extra hysterics.

          Like… The conservatives cry more? They’re more emotional? I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

          And I never said that I was a liberal. I just think you sound like a twat.

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            I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

            In other words… you need to have your own ideology explained to you, because you have never actually given your ideology a second thought.

            You never even chose it.

            And I never said that I was a liberal.

            And? How does that affect the fact that you’re a liberal, liberal?

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      Confidently saying something like that clearly illustrates the problem with leftism, lefty. You people have no concept of how nuance works or even what it means.

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        Confidently saying something like that clearly illustrates the problem with liberalism, liberal. You people have no use for nuance except as something to hide behind.

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          Dude, your entire post/comment history reads like a cautionary tale on how not to come off as the “ackshually” meme guy.

          Side note- calling liberals “liberal” isn’t the insult you think it is.

          And lastly… nuance isn’t a thing to hide behind. It’s just… a thing. You see, the world and everthing in it- exists within a grey area called “reality.” This is ironically where a lot of ignorant people stage their ideology of “everthing is either black-and-white/everyone is either with us, or against us” from.

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            calling liberals “liberal” isn’t the insult you think it is.

            You mean… just like the terms fascist, white supremacist and colonialist weren’t insults once? They sure are now, aren’t they?

            And lastly… nuance isn’t a thing to hide behind.

            Then stop hiding behind it, liberal. Defend your ideology… if you can.

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              Okay, since you’ve basically admitted to using the term “liberal” as an insult, I’ve nothing to say to you. Because circumventing the “no personal attacks” rule by calling people “liberals” as a derogatory is about as bad faith as it gets.

              You’re the conversational equivalent of a Trump supporter.

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                Lol!

                What’s the matter, liberal? If your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?

                You can flatter me all day long by calling me a socialist or a radical - it doesn’t matter how you did it. Perhaps it’s because, unlike you, I actually know what those terms mean.

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                  The problem here is that you think you’re being clever by skirting the rules of this community by calling me a liberal as an insult- after admitting it’s an insult. But it’s only considered an insult to people who don’t understand how things work in the real world- so… in essence, no one relevant.

                  And you’re clearly not any smarter than OP who admitted they were here to post propaganda, you’re here admitting back-door insults.

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                    The problem here is

                    Again, liberal… if your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?

                    here to post propaganda

                    Did you notice the sign on the door here, liberal? It literally says politics.

                    Which means what, liberal? Do you need me to explain even the most basic things about this to you?