YOUR ARGUMENT is that the result of this referendum matters. It doesn’t because, as you’ve identified, both options are the same. As for Hawaiian resistance, they’ve been fighting continuously for a hundred years and, like every other liberation movement against the USA, have been ruthlessly suppressed by the fascist police and petty-bourgeoise militia of the “middle class”. And, like every other liberation struggle, victory is inevitable as the empire continues to crumble beneath the weight of its sins.

Also, neat how you’ve got five devoted followers upvoting you within two minutes on every one of your shitty empire-shilling posts for the last several hours

Referendum is literally: “Would you like to be a state or a territory? Independence is not an option.”

Sigh…

Should I kill you with my sword or with my gun?

Sorry, “I want to live” was not an option on the ballot

Maybe they’re going to trade for some Russian bread and soup like these guys

Remind me, which Russian unit goes by “Збройні сили України”?

Remind me, which Russian unit goes by “Збройні сили України”?

Well this is some inverted reasoning. The bombs didn’t end the war quicker and the US military didn’t think that they would. It was pointless cruelty to civilians that saved no one, for the sake of intimidating the USSR.

And if we follow this logic, then every (white) inhabitant of the US deserves to have every single atom of their bodies blasted out into interstellar space at the speed of light for their country’s past and present crimes.

Firstly,

You’re an ignorant westerner whose entire knowledge consists of fifteen seconds a day of headlines drip-fed by your state-controlled media, and the link you sling at me is from fucking Wikipedia.

In short: you are wrong. The Empire’s media lies. The ‘1 million’ number is based on eight (8) interviews conducted by virulent German christofascist shitstain Adrian Zenz.

Here’s a vlog by a guy who actually went to Xinjiang and talked to people there. Plenty of other videos on his channel too.

The program in question, which took place in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region was a deradicalization campaign against islamic extremists funded by the west, who had been committing multiple terror attacks every year. People taken in were given education and warned about the dangers of Islamic extremism, especially the (foreign to Xinjiang) Wahabbi form of Islam exported by Saudi Arabia with the help of the US. Who, by the way, deradicalizes Uyghurs by blowing them up. After conducting the most humane and effective deradicalization program ever, the western backed extremists are gone and even western media has to grudgingly admit the whole thing is over (in the most loaded language possible):

The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the most successful proletarian revolution ever, and resulted in near-totally equal distribution of land among the peasantry. Life expectancy under Mao increased at a rate of more than one year per year, to double from around thirty to over sixty. It is the most rapid sustained increase in life expectancy anywhere, ever. China’s two thousand year food problem was solved.

Luckily your totally unbiased and free press can report such improvements in an impartial manner.

Dare you read anything I’ve linked? Can you get past your unearned smug arrogance? Or is the parasite attached to your forebrain just too strong?

Firstly, there is only a question of ‘unify or declare independence’ because of continuous pressure from the US Empire for the last half century. Continuing the status quo benefits all parties because the RoC’s largest trading partner is the PRC (obviously, because it’s a country of 1.8 billion people that is literally right offshore) and gradually increasing integration was the obvious natural course.

Until the US, which still maintains an official One-China policy, decided it needed another way to attack China. But maybe, China really might just smash its way in by force… any day now!

If events had unfolded based on normal political and economic trends, Taipei would probably have ended up as an autonomous province under the PRC, similar to Hong Kong or Macau, because the Chinese central government is comparatively hands-off and local governments are mostly allowed to do their own thing - a policy started under Mao called (I love Chinese policy names) Let One Hundred Flowers Bloom, Let One Hundred Schools of Thought Contend.

Oh, but of course you thought the entire Chinese population was controlled directly by Xi Jinping like units in an RTS, didn’t you? Because you’re a know-nothing racist fuckwit - or not, after all, it’s okay to say that asian people are yellow-skinned and beady-eyed if they’re enemies of the US! Xi is going to finish his third term, see out the opening stages of the Belt and Road Initiative, then retire like every other Chinese President and foreigners with full bellies and too much time on their hands will cope and seethe that the next one is also a horrible dictator (until that one retires too).

You mean the Last Chinese Famine? The famine that took place in a country with a multimillennial history of devastating rice famines? The famine that was less bad than other, contemporaneous famines in capitalist countries? The famine that marked the last instance of food insecurity for about half a billion people?

What might have caused that?

Guess we’ll never know.

The ‘Tiananmen Square massacre’ is a psyop and not a single government claims it’s what actually happened.

And haven’t you got the last update? We’re not doing Uyghurs any more, just ask your state-controlled media:

The deradicalisation program was a success and has now finished, and all these guys:

Are now plumbers or electricians (or doing lucrative speaking tours through US “”““intelligence””“” circles)

Shame about all those horrible crimes that were comitted by the Chinese government though:

The problem, of course, is that you’ve come wading into an argument with absolutely no evidence. Here are the actual opinions of the citizens of the Republic of China:

As you can see, the most popular options are “Decide later” and “Decide never”. “Independence now!” as a choice has never quite beaten “No response”.

Nor is that really surprising - independence as a political project only appeared in the mainstream in any capacity with the founding of the DPP (Democratic Prograssive Party) in 1986. For the first 37 years, the island was controlled exclusively by the KMT (Kuomintang) as a one-party military dictatorship that not only considered itself part of China, but the rightful rulers of the whole of China! Here’s the insignia of the RoC Marine Corps, showing the full extent of the territories claimed by the Republic of China:

As you can see, it not only includes the mainland but large areas of several neighbouring states including almost the whole of Mongolia. The KMT old guard, as much as remain in politics anyway, are actually furious about the idea of claiming independence, because it would mean renouncing the whole rest of China!