I just checked it out, because of your claim, but found it to look just like it always did. r/all is still the same, my subsribed subs are still the same. Still a lot of people posting content, asking questions, sharing stories. Not sure in what kind of bubble you live :/
I just checked it out. LOL no they aren’t. Reddit is still thriving.
yeah, it’s some pretty serious copium to think reddit was massively affected by the protests. Sadly, they were not
but all I can do is leave and enjoy lemmy so fuck em
Several subs that I frequented are gone. The biggest pain to me is probably caused by the loss of Transcribers for Reddit. The group behind it basically disbanded at the end of june.
100% same
Same. One vote may not be much but I’m not the only one who nuked a decade old account and will not be returning.
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I wouldn’t call reddit thriving given that its flagship r/iama is now completely dead as a result of the mods packing up and saying that they will no longer do the work of verification or soliciting celebrities anymore. One of the biggest draws to the site historically as well as consistently producing positive media.
Yeah so there is still a lot of activity. However, >2000 subs are still dark, 18 others have gone full john oliver and many more are less moderated than before. BotDefense are leaving. So it’s definitely not that nothing out of the ordinary is going on, although I think that is exactly experience that reddit as a company tries to give you when you visit the site.
Eitherway, I am a lemming now and very happy to be here and not there.
Exactly! Last I checked, sure there was a lot of activity BUT as you said, many subs are still dark. The major subs that reopened with new moderation have definitely had a major dip (imo) in quality. I was still seeing John Oliver everywhere. They did use quite a few users, maybe not enough for them to flinch too hard but, how active were those users? I consider my old account there a “power comment account” I rarely posted but was extremely active in the threads, spending hours each day replying to comments of my inbox, so much so that I rarely even viewed actual content. Makes me wonder, how many accounts like mine did they lose? Many just lurked. The comment sections were fueled by active commenters and imo it wouldn’t take losing too many like me for the threads to take a noticeable hit.
Anyway I don’t care much about how it is over there rn, just glad I have this place so I don’t have to support that platform in any way. Plus now that I’ve found a cool app, jerboa or whatever it’s quite enjoyable! Connect and liftoff are also great but my phone doesn’t play well with many apps.
I occasionally open RIF just to see if it’s still working which it is but it doesn’t let me login, meaning I can only access the front page of /r/all and man, it is abysmal. The content there doesn’t even motivate me to stay there any longer than for a quick glance, lol. Tbf, if I open old.reddit on PC while logged in (which I now almost never do and I haven’t posted anything there since June 31), it is better but it still doesn’t feel completely the same. Plenty of subs still missing, some other that I didn’t use to see much are now more present instead, and then there’s /r/videos which still requires profanity in titles but now also, hilariously, only allows text transcripts of videos with no link to them.
only allows text transcripts of videos with no link to them
That was my favorite protest twist. I’ve only checked back to see that my ~2000 comments remained edited/deleted (they are). Otherwise, I am fine moving away just as I did with Digg. It’s a new experience and it’s just fine. I do agree that the niche subs are probably what keep drawing folks back there. It’ll take time to curate those elsewhere.
I had no idea /r/videos was doing that. Hilarious.
Yeah, I’m happy to be here too. Here’s to the future 🥂
Yup. Just like Spez predicted. The site is maybe less popular, but it will survive. The protests will die off eventually. The Reddit clones will never be as popular and active as Reddit once was. Maybe eventually the investers and advertisers will return, and it will be seen in hindsight as a smart move. The quality of the content may take a drop, but it was a calculated risk of making it more profitable.
It was a pretty safe bet. Most of the people on this planet don’t give a shit about principles or corporate hostilities so long as they get what they want.
It drives me nuts!
The Reddit clones will never be as popular and active as Reddit once was.
They used to say the same kind of things about Digg.
The real problem was always a lack of alternatives imo. A “protest” can’t work on the website you’re literally using. What should have happened is those people all moved to another platform, but there isn’t one. There isn’t one canonical alternative to reddit, so they had to “protest” there.
I mean, a priest didn’t have to leave the platform if it hits the ad revenue, which things like going NSFW have reportedly done.
Ironically enough, these Reddit clone instances are now obsolete ghost towns. The ”protest” failed and most people don’t want to post on knockoff Reddit when the real thing is right there. The more focused instances will survive with a small, dedicated userbase, but there’s zero chance any of these will take Reddit’s place. The Beehaw losers wanted so badly to be the new Reddit too, lmao.
Oooh, there are Reddit clones? I’d love to check one out! Surely if they’re cloning code or outright copying something proprietary, they’d get shut down immediately though right?
You’re on one right now. Don’t know if you’re joking or not, but no idea how anyone could get the idea from my comment that it was about instances that literally clone Reddit.
Content aggregators existed before reddit and they’ll continue to exist after. A community for shitposts is not unique to reddit.
This. Facebook has heaps of meme posting groups with millions of members.
yeah, this is not true. some subs are gone. there are still tons of people there. HOWEVER, the level of shitheadedness is increasing across all subs, even ones that were once relatively free of it. I’m seeing fewer thoughtful responses and more of the kind of reactionary kneejerk bullshit you expect from the front page subs or youtube comments or something. As ever, niche content remains your best bet, but I’m noticing a sharp decline in quality. This has been happening for a long time now, but this event has certainly been a(nother) tipping point. People have constantly compared reddit to digg in this instance, implying that the same kind of replacement is nigh… but I don’t know. We are kind of in uncharted territory on this. In the earlier days of the www there was always a new thing, but the Digg collapse happened (or started happening) like 15 years ago, the internet is an entirely different beast now. I don’t know what’s going to happen with reddit, but I’m on permanent lurker status over there until I suss it out.
I agree with everything you said, but I have a few additions that I’ve noticed in terms of Reddit going downhill. I’m seeing a ton of anti-copium in this thread, but ngl, I Reddit has gotten a LOT worse for me as a whole as someone that uses it regularly. it’s the reason I came here, even though I actually didn’t stick with Lemmy originally after the blackout (due to lack of content).
-Like you said, shitheadedness has gone up
-Reposts and unserious posts have gone up (replacing actual interesting and varied content, which has gone down)
-Content farming has gone up (related to the above point)
-“Subtle” advertisement like astroturfing has gone up (once again, reducing visibility of any actual worthwhile posts)
-The NSFW side of reddit is legit worthless at this point.
In addition the the app being unusable and the APIs no longer allowing for third party apps. I’m a bit surprised there are so many people in this thread that claim not to have noticed. Like, Reddit has legitimately turned into IFunny quality material seemingly overnight from my perspective. I’m not sure how people could not notice, but maybe I just use it differently from others.
This may not affect the shareholders at the end of the day since it will probably just turn into a low quality garbage machine that still makes money, but from an actual social media perspective I think there will be a significant number of others like me who need to find a new home that’s not full of shit content.
My time on Reddit died simultaneously with Apollo. I’m doing what I can by not giving that place anymore traffic from me.
Found out about Lemmy yesterday. While it’s not there with niche interests at this point, it definitely cures the itch.
You want to stick it to the man? Quit going there altogether people!
Now try wefwef it’s like Apollo
I’m using Memmy for Lemmy and the dev has said they were inspired by Apollo. There’s even a shoutout to Christian on the github page. It’s just had it’s official app store launch, definitely worth giving a try.
I would say Mlem is also inspired by Apollo, so I would recommended it as well; I keep jumping back and forth between Memmy, Mlem and wefwef.
Tried Thunder and Liftoff!, but they feel very Material Design-y to me, so using them on iOS feels off. Which is a shame because both are pretty fast.
Lemmios is also promising, but it’s still on early development so it’s a bit rough around the edges.
My screen time was more than halved when Apollo went down, it’s slowly increasing with wefwef though which is probably bad for me but still fun
Name was changed to Voyager, fyi
thank god, ive been avoiding wefwef just due to the name alone
Heads up it’s officially called Voyager now.
I like Memmy better. Inspired by Apollo also.
I’m using memmy; it’s pretty similar to Apollo as well.
Im part off your Username Ü
You’re inside of me
Same for me with Boost, and SAME for me with Lemmy lol. I’m using Liftoff now
Welcome! You’ve probably seen it around already, but just in case, you can search at lemmyversenet/communities and may turn up some of those niche communities that are just difficult to find otherwise. Ofc, maybe they don’t exist yet, but always worth a look!
Yeah I feel the same way. I’m on here and it’s working but I also do miss my years and years worth of subs I joined that made my feed perfect to what I liked, especially the smaller ones that I hope make it over here someday. Right now my lemmy feed just mostly feels like meme after meme or some politics post which is not really what I like at all so I may have to spend some time and figure out how to narrow my interests more on here.
That’s definitely the worst part for me too. But if people make the switch here and the user base grows and over time you curate your feed here, it could eventually be that again.
I’m just ready to sacrifice that to say “screw you” to Reddit. Finding this platform has just been a pleasant surprise
This place is a lot better than I expected it would be tbh, and I’ve been here a couple weeks now. It’s encouraging to see.
I’m lucky that my curated feed was mostly open source coding, AI tech and solar punk so I’ve been able to find even better communities than Reddit had. The less tech adjacent subs will take longer to build but you can see them starting to establish - I guess the best way to help that is to participate in them and to introduce other people to them.
if you are on iOS, use Memmy. it’s really close to Apollo functionality :)
there’s also many iOS clients in beta right now too
Which app are using if you don’t mind me asking?
I recommend Voyager, basically a beat for beat recreation of Apollo for Lemmy.
Just using the Lemmy app
stock lemmy app does not exist yet on iOS publicly
My bad, Memmy
Content is slowing drastically, r/all isn’t updating for most of the day from low engagement, reddit uses a differential for upvotes which doesn’t reflect total users well.
I agree, I studied abroad with a 12 hour difference and during the day there, when I browsed Reddit, most of the posts were lower quality because most people were asleep. (Sorry euro peeps)
It’s when the evening came that the posts picked up quality and engaged me.
Now that I’m stateside, I feel like Reddit posters are completely and perpetually asleep (or just gone).
It’s really wild to see reposts over and over. Like some Redditbot constantly spamming the same thing hoping to get some traction going for conversation.
Ahahahah we know.
Best regards,
Yurop
reddit uses a differential for upvotes
ELI5? I’m genuinely interested - just wonder what this means? I’d always assumed +1 on a post meant 1 user clicking the “upvote” button.
It’s some sort of weird percentage once you get past a certain number. I’m fuzzy on the numbers but 1.2k upvotes shown on the website was worth a different amount than actual. Something like 1.5k = 1.2k upvotes for your personal karma.
They “fuzz,” votes, and it starts after only 10 or so. It will return a value within 10% or so of the true vote. It is to obfuscate the totals to make it harder for bot accounts to tell if they are shadowbanned or not.
I am not reddit geek so TIL
That was changed years ago
Not sure what this place will evolve in to but it seems like a nice replacement for Reddit. There is a lot of work to be done for people to re-build the communities and transfer the information but if enough people buy in to it… years down the road this could be the place to be.
I agree, Rome wasn’t build in a day, it takes consistent effort to create a thriving community.
We just need to fortify against the invading “Barbarian Hordes” (I mean Zuccs and Eloy)
I did, I only check the very niche subs once very few days, but it’s like returning to the still smoldering ruins of your burnt down home town, talking to the survivors…
No they aren’t. At worst some subs have just entered peak meme status.
To be fair, quite a few subs I enjoyed a lot were permanently shut down and disappeared :-( Makes that website a lot less fun for me now. Such a shame.
I uninstalled it. I can’t stand the “r/Hegetsus” promoted religious ads. It said it could not be blocked.
He get sus
Not really, it looks fine to me.
If it was like OceanGate’s collapse, it would have happened all at once extremely fast.
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Thank you for saying this. When I created it, I thought it was a nice pun, a good way to revive the bad pun dog meme and I stand by it that there is some truth to it. I definitely wasn’t expecting it to become my post with the highest exposure to date, or for a post made in a shitposting community (!) to be taking this seriously.
That being said, I still think Reddit is in trouble. As I pointed out in a previous comment, there are still more than 2000 subs in the dark, moderation is at an all time low morale, bot traffic is increasing, re-posts are increasing, content quality is decreasing, comments are increasingly toxic. etc. There are definitely a lot of small subreddits where there is no change noticeable. But saying Reddit is back to business as usual doesn’t seem very realistic to me.
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If you’re still using Reddit, please be a homie and spread the fediverse gospel
I will. But I do want to say that it’s my personal opinion, that yes, we definitely should grow as a community with more reddit refugees, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to grow relatively slowly. On the technological side, we need the infrastructure growth to match the user base growth. Maybe even more importantly, I think most of us will agree we want to take the good of reddit with us, but definitely not the toxicity. Copy pasting the whole user base to the fediverse could lead to also copy pasting the culture that exists over there now. The thing I most enjoy on Lemmy is definitely the general vibe over the content for now, and that is pretty special on the Internet.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Smaller is also much more manageable.
We don’t need to be REDDIT big but…ayo you people need to post more so i can scroll an unhealthy amount all day.
I like the collective ‘we’ makes me feel all warm and federated inside.
Also, we don’t necessarily need a big userbase. Just a good active one. More is not necessarily better in my opinion.
Unfortunately, the main benefit of having a large userbase is that you can always find a community for any obscure interest you have! That’s not really the case with lemmy now.
Bluesky is super-fun right now, because it’s got just enough folks to generate varied content, and everyone is playing ball on the same level.
Absolutely, I would be happy if we stayed where we are on the main subs with niche ones growing a bit. Game specific subs are still pretty barren with most of the content being three or four people. I could use some of that growth for sure.
A few hundred comments and consistent uploads are all I think we really need to keep chugging along.
Every day of people still using Reddit is a day when a portion of humanity’s ability to communicate is controlled by one psychopath.
notes to self:
- no, that did not say “hornie”
- check system font settings on this computer
- maybe start a c/keming
also FUCK yeah markdown
I wonder if r/keming used to say “Currently 300 hornie online”
Hallelujah!!
Why can’t I comment
u just did bro (or sis)
Oh cool, for some reason I can’t seem to comment from app but can from the browser
I’m getting the same issue. I’m just glad to have a Reddit substitute that works
yea the Android apps are being weird to me, too.
There were some issues with lemmy.world this week and most apps require you to log out and back in to start working properly again. Hopefully that’s all it is!
I do not know. Try again!
I can’t see you!
Having same issue and just commenting now as a test
Edit: oh yay
Edit edit: trying from Memmy
Edit edit edit: oh yay oh yay
Check if your logged in, if your on liftoff, login again even tho it says your logged in
It doesn’t seem like it’s actively collapsing but there is definitely a slow decline in its early stages. There’s a noticeable uptick in the number of bots and they aren’t being caught and deleted as quickly. There’s also a lot of subtle protest going on such as r/DIY making their automod be as obnoxious as possible. It’s still working and there’s still content but there’s a noticeable pallor over the place.