The war in Ukraine is still anyone’s game, but those repeating Russian talking points never change their tack.
Seems like everything is a Russian talking point unless it is total victory and unlimited military aid for Ukraine.
Pretty limiting.
My brother in Christ, the comment you’re responding to literally says “the war in Ukraine is still anyone’s game.” How do you read that and come to the conclusion that OP considers everything except total victory for Ukraine to be a Russian talking point?
ZombiFrancis is a concern troll. That’s all. They do this all the time.
Oh it is always you with these. Hey I will freely admit I should pay more attention to who people are because Lemmy is small enough. Acting all big city in a small town like an ass.
Could save some heartache all round.
I really don’t think bringing up, let alone discussing, Ukrainian defeat would be responded to less harshly.
That’d be the clown face’s final form wouldn’t it?
Don’t you have tankies to defend somewhere else?
Oh was that a Russian talking point?
I think it’s more likely some sort of logical fallacy. If I said, “Seems like everything is Chinese propaganda except for talk of reduced inflation and the economy doing better” it would mean discussion of lower unemployment, or an American fashion trend, or the President’s dog, are all automatically Chinese propaganda, when they’re either neutral or positive stories on unrelated matters.
So you’ve established unreasonable requirements for the discussion, and a false absolutism.
Well that is what I am trying to identify here: It doesn’t seem like there are reasonable requirements for discussion on the war in Ukraine. The immediate “Fuck off, Tankie” response is pretty ubiquitous. Where does one even begin?
Albeit, soyjacks are never a great foundation for discussion, so that is on me, sure. I don’t think this was a call for discussion, more the opposite. So successful bait I guess.
No, just the kind of concern trolling you pull everywhere you go, conveniently always in defense of popular tankie positions. So kindly fuck off.
There really isn’t anything to be said outside of unlimited military aid and total victory for Ukraine that isn’t seen as a ‘tankie’ position is there?
Like I said - you can fuck off with your concern trolling.
“Fuck off” is all you have to say other than calling “Tankie”?
Alrigut.
Well it could also be a fascist position. But of course that is implied with “tankie”.
Putin should have just invited Ukraine for a cup of tea. He’s pretty bad at the other way
Pootin cannot afford to lose this war so he will destroy the entire world rather than accept defeat.
“Will not going to invade.”
For fucks sake! Proofread your memes people!
I think it represents that crowd pretty well haha.
I will not going to proofread my mems when I mak them.
I don’t mak them.
Not made by me originally, but I agree.
My wife is a tax accountant and works on various complex multi-million dollar files, and she said it’s honestly demoralizing sometimes to see how many people who can’t spell simple words or distinguish the difference between their, there and they’re on professional documents and correspondence, are out there making absurd amounts of money and reaping their success.
In eastern Ukraine, I foresee a long term South Ossetia/Abkhazia situation where most of the world doesn’t recognise the new ““constitutional status”” but the Russians won’t care because they are in de facto control of the region.
Meanwhile in the west we continue to dripfeed weapons and equipment to Ukraine which is just enough to keep them afloat but not enough to help them actually expel the Russians. We’re both afraid of abandoning Ukraine to it’s fate and Putin potentially using nuclear weapons if we go too far with our support. It’s a shit show.
Western propaganda doesn’t exist
I heard on Russian TV that it does and it’s really bad.
Biden bombs three countries:
No we’re not in a war right now. This is a special military operation
Military strikes on non-state actors to discourage further attacks with no significant presence on the ground? Probably not an actual war.
Full-on invasion of a sovereign state using a massive proportion of your total ground forces to penetrate their borders and massacre their citizens? Probably a war.
Yeah the biggest political faction in Yemen that controls the country totally not a state actor.
Russians will tell you they were just bombing Azov Nazi groups.
And they conveniently don’t recognize Ukraine so that’s not an official government either!
I guess there was no war in Afghanistan either because the Taliban is not officially recognized by us as their government.
Special miliary operations all the way down.
the biggest political faction in Yemen
This doesn’t seem to be a clear description. The Houthis look like they control the largest territory in terms of population and cities, but the internationally recognized government factions are in control of more land. And are also recognized as the ruling authority.
Certainly, they aren’t a small and trivial group, but they’re also not a sovereign government. It’s a large revolutionary group. A good comparison is probably the US revolutionary war actually – I don’t think I’d say the US colonists were the biggest political faction over the British. They were certainly powerful and ultimately won, but they weren’t the controlling authority of the region.
Nobody cares about some desert land. If you have the population you rule the country.
What is internationally recognized is not relevant. If Iran recognizes something we don’t care either.
The fact is that America is not just conducting some “special military operation” in the middle east. They are actively at war defending israel’s Genocide.
I’m not disagreeing that the US is doing that. I just don’t know the veracity of calling the Houthis the biggest political faction.
I also don’t know that war is the correct term, but that’s more of a semantics difficulty of the 21st century. Supplying arms vs conducting airstrikes vs ground invasions – I agree with what you’re saying overall though. The US is helping Israel, and Israel is committing genocide.
I really don’t think this is germaine though to the topic of Russian propaganda in the Ukraine war.
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Oh, you poor baby.
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Helping a country defend itself from an aggressor is not war mongering, it’s the exact opposite. It’s acting unilaterally against an invasion. The invading party are the warmongers. It’s like you practice being this stupid just so you can feel correct instead of being correct.
Because the world would be so much better if we just let invasions of sovereign nations happen right? Fucking idealistic moron. Why do you support genocide? Is it just because you’re cheap or because you’re a coward?
Someone doesn’t real potique