• Candelestine@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      There was no possible way we could make it through an election cycle without the right wing trolls popping out of the woodwork. Just wishful thinking.

      They rather like being impugned, part of the whole anti-intellectual thing with Trumpism, where they thrive from being attacked and getting to play the rebel.

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        It’s going to get worse, it’s only January… Wait until the Megapost for the Republican Convention. :)

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          No, just that repubs are perfectly happy to take any form of attack that comes to hand, and online, will gleefully pretend to be something they’re not for the lulz.

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            pretend to be something they’re not

            Iike democrats pretending to be working for the marginalized?

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              At least we try, instead of pushing to burn the whole system down, hurting everyone in proportion to their lack of power and leaving the system open for power to re-entrench without a system of checks and balances to prevent extremism.

              This narrative of both sides being the same since they both feature some corruption is so tiring, when one very clearly tries where the other does not.

              Some idealists like to argue for the guillotine, but seem to forget that the private jet and offshore bank account is an absolute hard counter to the guillotine.

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      Go protest against Hamas and Netanyahu. They’re the only ones actually killing people. The U.S. stood by its allies. Hamas fucked around and found out. They wanted Netanyahu to overreact and level Gaza. What should the U.S. do? Hold an ally at gunpoint and say “don’t fight back”?

      Biden’s administration is advocating for a two-state solution. A Trump administration would advocate for nothing for Palestine.

      But sure, go ahead and enable Trump to make things worse. I honestly don’t know how you folks sleep at night. Ignorance must be one hell of a sedative.

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        We should stop giving them money and weapons while they use that money and fire those weapons at ambulances and hospitals

        What the fuck is wrong with you? “Stand by our allies?” I dont give a shit who your ally is, if they start slaughtering children and innocents they can get fucked, and they can certainly get their bloody, murderous hands out of our fucking wallet.

        Funding genocide is an action that trumps any words. They can advocate whatever they like when they are spending my tax dollars on slaughter of humans, the words mean fuckall.

        No seriously, what the actual fuck is wrong with you? Did your mother beat you with a mallet? Do you drink lead?

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        We don’t give a fuck about what Trump might do. We are concerned what genocide Joe is actually doing. Biden has the ability to pull back their government welfare checks and refuse to provide weapons like Reagan did, but the self proclaimed Zionist has done neither. In fact boosting money and bypassing Congress 2 times to provide weapons.

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          Biden has the ability to pull back their government welfare checks and refuse to provide weapons like Reagan did…

          What do you suppose this would accomplish?

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                While your snarky comment is technically right, you seem to be intentionally ignoring this person’s actual point.

                Sure, they’ll still genocide without the US’ help. But that doesn’t mean we should continue helping them?

                Besides, having a country that tends to ally with Israel stop providing them weapons might actually make them consider their actions more. Doubtful, but still infinitely more useful than continuing to give aid.

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                  Sure, they’ll still genocide without the US’ help. But that doesn’t mean we should continue helping them? [sic]

                  Where did I say we should? I agree that we should stop providing them weapons.

                  But to pretend that the US (and by extension, Joe Biden) is somehow a cause of the continuation of the war is to knowingly inflate the US’s role and engage in a fallacy of understated evidence. Netanyahu is fighting a holy war, and he’ll sacrifice as many children and zealots upon that altar to maintain his grip on power.

                  That’s the point. People need to stop talking and acting like it’s Joe Biden’s fault or that he has some intrinsic power to stop it, because that’s factually incorrect.

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                  Are you aware they can and do make their own weapons, and even sell some to the US? I ask, because based on your single sentence, it seems you like you aren’t.

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              Nah, just stop trying to put it on Biden. No american president would have done any less to support israel.

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                  Removed, rule 3:

                  “Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”

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                  Yeah, they all have a list of things that they should be dragged in front a court for, except maybe Jimmy Carter.

                  Calling me names doesn’t change reality.

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                So maybe it’s time to get upset about your country’s defacto support of genocide.

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        Removed, rule 3:

        “Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”