• алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    uuu time for one of my fav sentences lul

    The worst thing the Bolsheviks did was give Ayn Raynd an education

    btw here is a step by step guide to Ayn Raynd’s life:

    1: be born into obscene wealth

    2: be 12, a civil war breaks out, flee to white-controlled crimea

    3: the reds win, nationalise the fathers pharmacy

    3.5: the reds win, without that she would have never seen a university from the inside

    4: be 16 and among the first women to go to university

    7: fuck off to the US to whine and cry

    8: write incoherent, economically completely unfeasible, idealist defense of a hypothetical capitalism

    9: profit

    (this is shamelessly copied from a Reddit comment)

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        I dont know. The ambient stupidity of Ayn Rand might lead you to homelessness. It certainly led her there.

        It’s not worth the risk. Best to have it piled among the primordial shit it came from.

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    I have heard so much about Ayn Rand that I decided to see what all the buzz was about and listened to Atlas Shrugged during my commute. That shit was the most insufferable, unrealistic, out-of-touch BS I’ve ever “read.” She really thought a lot of herself. It was a horrible exercise in self-flagellation.

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      I think I stole it from PhilosophyMemes in the before times. They had some really great ones. I agree that Stirner is not someone to look up to, but he makes for a great meme.

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        Max Stirner. Some kind of weird egoistic anarchist. Friedrich Engels liked him a lot in his early years. If I am right Karl Marx wrote a lot about him, but mostly how stupid his ideas were.

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          Just finished Stirner’s book, it’s interesting. (although I do not agree with even half of the things he says)

          Marx and Engels wrote about him in “The German Ideology”, criticizing him harshly, but the book was only published after their death.

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            Yeah, I looked it up and gave a link to wikipedia here, already. I was not sure, cause the last time I read something about him was like 10 years, ago. You have to read the exchange between Marx and Engels, you’ll find more there. It’s obvious that nobody would remember Stirner, if Marx & Engels hadn’t critized his ideas.

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              The edition I read has a commentary at the end that talks about various people’s opinions of the book in the years following its publication, and quotes some passages from Marx and Engels’ letters.

              It’s amazing how few people have maintained a positive opinion about him/his work for more than a few years

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        LOL! Hell no, he wasn’t. His ideas were simple, stupid and had not really a connection to the reality. It works maybe on a personal level, but mostly in your mind. If you have a connection with economics and the materialistic world, nah - it doesn’t. I think the funniest part is that nobody would remember him, if Engels didn’t make a lot of jokes about him. Even the only existing portrait of him is from Engels making fun of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_German_Ideology

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          Ideas about personal connections and your mind are also incredibly important.

          If you don’t understand how humans work, then you won’t be able to create an ideology that works. Economics aren’t everything.

          Sure, a lot of his works weren’t particularly good, but he tried to encompass a psychological component into his works, which hadn’t been done previously. His assertions were almost all wrong, but the fact that he tried had massive impacts on socialism as a whole.

          In that sense I see him fulfilling a similar role to Freud: He wasn’t correct, but his ideas opened up a new direction, which lead the broader field to actually think about and look into that stuff. Writing against Stirner made Marxism encompass some important aspects, like the historical materialism itself, that might not have existed had Stirner not existed.

          Stirner was a pioneer, but also mostly wrong. He was important for the development of socialism and for his time, but is now almost useless.