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      You know things have gone bad when you’re relying on a libertarian think tank literally founded by Charles Koch (as in, the Koch Brothers) as your source

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          Ah yes, the Lebanese source “Tim Anderson”.

          the European Parliament went so far as to blame both the USSR under Joseph Stalin, alongside Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, as being jointly responsible for WW2

          Uh…. Then he delivers a diatribe on how Stalin’s self-made famine was actually fantastic. Yes, we’ve heard all about that on Lemmy recently, thanks.

          Yes, very nuanced and well reasoned “Marxist” perspective. Capitalist alliance having members in Eastern Europe: omg, so evil. Capitalist Russia controlling Eastern Europe: great, for some unexplained reason.

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              Ah yes, great point, so clearly Russia should ‘liberate’ them with tanks and missiles. NATO exists precisely to stop Russia from doing to member states what they are doing in Ukraine. Countries in E. Europe were not coerced or forced into joining NATO or the EU. Nobody has any interest in invading Russia, because it would be futile and entirely useless.

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                NATO exists precisely to stop Russia from doing to member states what they are doing in Ukraine.

                Wrong. Check your NATO history.

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                  Why don’t you tell me what you think it is instead of “wrong”?

                  I didn’t say “NATO was started to…” yes, it was founded to stop the Soviets from expanding and as a pact of mutual defense. Same thing. Obviously the USSR doesn’t exist now so that wouldn’t continue to be a goal.

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                    NATO should have dissolved as an organization after it’s goal of thwarting communism from the Soviet Union was met. Because it’s real goal is capitalist hegemony it continues.

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      Yes you are. And i will leave it to the other people that have already told you why to continue. The mods here will probably delete this comment because I haven’t been nice to you :(((

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        I hope not. I respect the discourse despite the insults. Maybe try to see the world from a less Americanized lens.

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          I am. I am not even American.
          Maybe try to see the world from a lens that doesnt gobble up Propaganda

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            You are not immune to propaganda. Sure. The person who wants to stop the war and killing is the one influenced by propaganda./s